DOTM unanswered and answered questions (lots of spoilers)

[Lord_Zed]

Is there a canon explanation as to why none of the Autobots choose to turn into military vehicles? Especially airborne ones..? A Typhoon, Flanker or Berkut might have been rather useful. I was expecting some of the military vehicles in the base to be Autobots, like the heli... Maybe Bay doesn't get enough product placement $$$ from them...

I simply have to assume that flight is extremely difficult for Bayformers.

This was referenced by Epps in the movie when he said "How come Decepticons always get the best s#^t" Actualy that's my favourite line from the film, Decepticons always have the best stuff, the best weapons and more flyers, those are the rules.

[Tober]

Leo wouldn't have happened to died a horrible agonising death too would he..?

[griffin]

Seeing it again, one thing that bugged me (as I'm picking up the finer details now) is that Megatron tells Starscream that he was meant to meet Sentinel Prime on Earth when he left Cybertron in the Ark.
But according to the onscreen timeline, this planned rendezvous was to happen before they found the Earth when looking for the Allspark Cube, so does that mean that they knew about Earth from the Star Havester era (and from sending Decepticon Seekers years ago to find the Matrix)?
And if you go by the comics universe, the Cube happened to arrive on the planet ten thousand years before the Ark got there (the comics have the Ark leaving first, but the Cube got to Earth first). So I'm thinking that the Allspark Cube must have been sent out to space some time before Sentinel Prime left in the Ark... but even still, it's a 10,000 year drift in space to account for (what was everyone doing during this time, if the war was already lost at this time?).

So we have:

- Star Harvester is built on Earth, and Matrix is lost there with it.
- The Fallen disappears, but the Decepticons seem to know where he is.
- Sentinel plans to meet Megatron on Earth. (the planet must have still been known to them at this point from the Star Harvester age and the Decepticon Seekers on the planet)
- Sentinel leaves Cybertron in the Ark, which is shot up and left to drift in space.
- Allspark Cube is sent out into space. (although, I dont recall if it was made clear in the movie that it was sent out before or after Sentinel Prime left, as it was the comics that claimed he left first)
- Cube lands on Earth.
- Megatron crashes on Earth while looking for the Cube.
- Ark crashes on the moon.
- Soundwave's Decepticons arrive on the moon soon after to retrieve pillars and wait in hiding. (if the Decepticons remember that the planet is where the legendary Star Harvester and Matrix were hidden, I guess they were hoping it would be found sometime soon, to reanimate Sentinel).
- Autobots arrive on Earth after finding the Cube.
- Decepticons (through Frenzy) learn that the Cube is on Earth, and that Megatron is there as well.
- The Fallen arrives and the Star Harvester and Matrix are located.
- Matrix is then used to reanimate Sentinel, allowing for the hidden Decepticons on the moon to reveal themselves and come to Earth.

Putting it together like that, most of it ends up making sense if you ignore the comics (which suggested that Megatron didn't know about Earth when he crashed there, or that the Star Harvester had to be found by Soundwave's Decepticons as if they didn't know about Earth).
The timing of the Cube and Sentinel leaving Cybertron is a bit iffy, as the comics said Sentinel left first, but the Cube got to Earth first. It was also not explained in the Movie how everything somehow arrives at the same location over a period of thousands of years.
But aside from the weak plot point of Soundwave's Decepticons hiding themselves on the Moon in the 1960s just in case the Autobots ever found Earth and the Matrix, most of the rest works as various other things (Megatron & Cube) were not known to them in the on-screen universe.
And if the Matrix was the only thing to be able to revive Sentinel, then why didn't Soundwave get his army to arrive on Earth in the 1960s and scour the planet looking for it? Why lay dormant for 50 years on the hope that Autobots would eventually find the planet, find the matrix and use the it themselves? It would have made more sense if the Decepticons were on Cybertron and the spacebridge went to there to bring through the army that captures Chicago.

One other thing I picked up on - Sentinel said that the Spacebridge pillar system could traverse time and space... so maybe a plot device there that the comics or future movies could use perhaps? Even with the pillars destroyed, there could be temporal side effects, or maybe Cybertron was sucked into a different time. Like five years into the future... and we have another invasion plot to deal with...
Or maybe humans replicate the technology (after scanning it during the time they had them in their custody), and use it to "bring back" characters killed off, but from an earlier time in their existence.

+ Twins: killed by Shockwave during DotM (it's in the comic adaptation - and the film doesn't contradict this )

They were killed by Sentinel Prime in the comic, not Shockwave.
You posted pics here.

[rampagesss]

How come when Carly drives the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG to her apartment / house none of the Autobots that arrive (Dino, Sideswipe on the street and Bumblebee, Wheelie and Brains in the house) Know its the Decepticon Soundwave? Wouldn't they be able to detect its a decepticon? In ROTF Ironhide said "hes here i can smell him" so why can't the other autobots.
And even the detector's they mentioned in the movie that are on the streets can't tell the Autobots there a decepticon just feet away from them

[SkyWarp91]

How come when Carly drives the Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG to her apartment / house none of the Autobots that arrive (Dino, Sideswipe on the street and Bumblebee, Wheelie and Brains in the house) Know its the Decepticon Soundwave? Wouldn't they be able to detect its a decepticon? In ROTF Ironhide said "hes here i can smell him" so why can't the other autobots.
And even the detector's they mentioned in the movie that are on the streets can't tell the Autobots there a decepticon just feet away from them

That's probably a plot error, but an explanation could be that Soundwave, or the Decepticons as a whole have managed to upgrade their technology to not be detected.

[shokwave2]

Jolt's missing too.

I thought i spotted him on the shuttle pad at NASA, shooting some electric cords to the crawler device that pulls the shuttle. It must have been one of the wreckers.

IMO Shockwave didn't do enough damage and didn't live up to his bad boy name. He didn't come across as that scary and his pet worm did more work then him.

[griffin]

Soundwave is a master of communications and electronic surveillance... so is likely to be able to cloak himself from others and those detector thingies. He probably even hacked into the system to prevent it from detecting them, or looked up the schematics to know how to block its sensors.

[liegeprime]

HAHAHAHA! That is hilarious. I think he should have died when Blackout dropped their car in ROTF.

Anyways... there is a good idea to a sequal... Transformers - Kill LaBouef! Where Optimus and Megatron (resurrected - again) unite forces and try to kill Sam... stomping on him continously for 1.5 hours... the last hour will be an EPIC CGI battle, where optimus is equipped with a shoe and chases him with it!

I'd pay for that heheheheh kill the human germ!!!

LOL @ Sam's bones. I'd have a strong bone too if I had a girlfriend like Carly

Regarding Ironhide, I think it's the effect of Sentinel Prime's weapon - the bullets probably have a thermite-effect where they eat away at the metal.

I think that's all blood Skywarp91... take care and monitor your blood pressures kids

[SkyWarp91]

Did anyone notice that when the TFs are hit/killed in this movie they bleed like red oil? I don't remember seeing that in the first 2 movies.

[Hursticon]

Did anyone notice that when the TFs are hit/killed in this movie they bleed like red oil? I don't remember seeing that in the first 2 movies.

I did notice that - I felt myself missing the blue plasma/sparks from the 1st movie, I think it was also in the 2nd movie too (Correct me if I'm wrong)?