SDCC Transformers GENERATIONS & EXCLUSIVES News and reveals

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Originally Posted by CBratron

edit: and it looks like the only difference between the helicopter twins is one has a visor.

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The colours are slightly different as well - one helicopter is mostly green while the other helicopter is mostly red.
Robot modes are very similar though, but the extra colouring can still be seen to tell the two apart.

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Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy

So, is that all?

Dunno about you guyz, but I found that somewhat boring. Victorion looks like rubbish. and a G2 Superion colouring? Scattershot? That's all? After the line drawings at Botcon, they got nothing else?

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Yeah... where is the Titan Wars news... or at least, the confirmation that it was just a red herring to get fans distracted.

And I'd rather have SDCC "boring" with little new News, than seeing Hasbro once again having little revealed at the "fans convention" just so they could get media coverage by the regular media at SDCC.
I think this year they struck an acceptable balance. They gave us a heap of new reveals at BotCon that included Wave 2 for 2016, while the SDCC presentation didn't include Wave 2, but did include other items that weren't revealed at BotCOn... just so they get some regular media coverage of something that isn't "old news".
(it is important for the major toy companies to get non-fan media exposure, and if Hasbro showed off everything at BotCon, their competitors will get all the non-fan media coverage instead, because it isn't News anymore... but in recent years, Hasbro was embracing it too much, at the expense of the fan convention, like the Combiner Wars announcement last year, which should have been enjoyed by the fans and fansites first)

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Originally Posted by Deano85

It makes you wonder why the leader figures couldn't all be packed with their own combiner feet and the deluxes with hands. Instead we got half done feet which struggle to pull off decent stances.

Ive got two sets of perfect effect feet. 1 for superion and 1 for menasor but finding it hard to justify getting a few more sets of black feet.

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It's necessary to understand the priority of Hasbro is to get certain size classes under a certain production price. Having the one basic design for hands and feet for the whole first year, might have made enough savings in their 2015 budget to give us an extra mould or different robot heads or body sculpting.
What is the cost of the 3rd party feet and hands? Add that to the cost of the Hasbro toy and there would have been other costs cut, like more mould reuse in the jets and vehicles that wouldn't have made sense (like Offroad and Blast Off).
Considering the hands and feet are such a minor part of the toy, with the main focus being on their ability to combine and play like a single solid toy, I think they work well enough... and are heaps better than the Energon combiner hands/feet.

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Originally Posted by snaketales

If I didn't already have Quickslinger I'd be narked that that mold was being used only with the G2 Superion.

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Would you rather have the Alpha Bravo mould as the gold Slingshot? :p

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

I missed the Hasbro MP Starscream news. I still need that mold so that might be how I get it.

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There was still a lot to digest out of it all, and I think I had about 6 postings after Hursticons big post o' pics.

Now to go back and look at the RID presentation and the Hasbro exhibit display... as I stayed up for the Generations presentation. :o

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Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron

If pricing was reasonable... I think it would be between $100-$120 because Sunstorm was $130 but came with coronation gear

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zed

That's what I'm hoping. You can still get the Japanese one from BBTS for 200USD, but I'd rather not pay that.

My worry is that as Prowl and then other cars have cost so much in the US, Starscreams price will also be inflated.

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Considering the pricing for Hasbro masterpiece toys went up after Soundwave to start costing more (in America) than the Japanese versions... and the 30% blowout of our exchange rate since last year, I'd be expecting $200 here for Starscream, and would be really surprised if it was anywhere around the $150 mark. :(

They probably aren't done with the reveals yet. It's the first day of the con and they usually put more things in over the course of the weekend, or have in recent years at any rate. Does anyone know if they have any other panels scheduled?

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Originally Posted by griffin

Would you rather have the Alpha Bravo mould as the gold Slingshot? :p

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If that meant Slingshot would have been available locally as a trade-off, heck yeah :D
I've got no problem with Slingshot being on the G2 combiner war Superion... just would have been nice if it was available from Hasbro for the G1 one. But who knows, maybe they wanted that point of difference between the two.

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Originally Posted by Zommael

They probably aren't done with the reveals yet. It's the first day of the con and they usually put more things in over the course of the weekend, or have in recent years at any rate. Does anyone know if they have any other panels scheduled?

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The two presentations today was all that were scheduled... but like you say, they might still put out something new in the display case on the exhibit room floor.

And where are the Reissue Dinobots? :confused:
I was sure they'd be revealing them... as that would have been a great publicity element. Hopefully it is something they put out before the end of the weekend.


And how are people going with chasing up the exclusive toys?
Is anyone chasing them up as soon as possible or even have them pre-ordered from someone who was going to be at the SDCC, or will you wait until the hype dies down and see if prices come down like they did for last years toys?

The Generations Toys and Store Exclusives are now in the display case.
To people new to the original Generation 2's wacky colours, the Stunticons and some of the Aerialbots are gonna look too weird to want to buy... but for a Gen1 fan to see that full Display Case photo, it's like a flashback to the past. :D


Official images now, mirrored on the global fansites...

Gen2 Superion

Gen2 Mensaor

Victorion

Voyager Scattershot (scroll down a little to see a photo of it's combined mode in the display case, to see that it's combiner mode doesn't have any remoulding compared to Silverbolt... only the jet mode seems to have the remoulding)

Platinum Edition packs - Coneheads, Blaster/Perceptor, Trypticon

Masterpiece - Bluestreak, Starscream.

Scattershot looks like Silverbolt's shirt had an colourfast accident in the washing machine.

I was looking forward to Scattorshot, and unlike many in the comments section on the website I am still pretty pumped for it. His combined mode however is pretty 'meh'

Victorian looks a lot better in the stock photos rather then the SDCC toys we saw.

Well, what an almighty heap of 5#!+.

So now, having some time to digest, I have to say Victorion is a must-buy for me for the new hands and feet and AWESOME SWORD. I'm disappointed with the helicopter modes though, but on the other hand a combiner with four helicopter limbs is now possible, so that's fun (I guess Cyclonus would have to be the core, hehe).

Bruticus and especially Superion I am wavering on. I currently have the original Superion with Alpha Bravo and I'm perfectly happy with it, but I do feel that the G2 colours look pretty good on the toy, plus I don't have Slingshot. It's the set I'm least likely to get atm, because I already have 5/6 of it.

Bruticus is a slightly different story; at present I just have the four Stunticon cars, not Motormaster or Blackjack. If Motormaster does get released over here before I go abroad, I may still pick him up, and then I'll start to be very iffy on the G2 Menasor set. On the other hand, if I don't see Motormaster before going away, I'm hoping I might have the chance to pick up Grand Scourge instead, and use him as the core for Menasor. If that happens there's a significantly higher chance of me grabbing the G2 set, as I'd only actually have 3/6, but it's not like Wildrider is enough of a draw to really be worth it. If I do get Menasor I'll probably get Superion too.

Pushing me towards getting the G2 sets is the fact that I already have G2 FOC Bruticus, and having the three on my shelf standing together with Laser Prime and maybe any other modern G2 figures I can find would be super-awesome. So we'll see. All of this is based on the prices being reasonable, too, either ordering from overseas or released in this country.

I think the colours on G2 Superion and Menasor look absolutely awful! Just like they are supposed to be. :)

My strange temptation to get one of them is a madness akin to a desire to buy and wear the loudest Hawaiian shirt one can imagine. :p

Seibertron have uploaded two of the video clips shown at the Generations presentation, and they should end up being uploaded by Hasbro eventually (if not already).

Combiner Wars promo video, featuring the Devastation Game.

Victorion design process, including the thought behind some of the character and colour elements.
(the video says it is the result of the second annual fan-vote, but that's incorrect, as it was voted and revealed in 2013, while Victorion was voted and revealed in 2015... with each toy being released the following year - but this could mean more fan-vote toys are likely in future years)

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Originally Posted by CBratron

Actually not quite Hasbro's fault. The fans voted on colour scheme.
but yes , it is eye bleedingly vibrant.

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To be fair, the fans weren't exactly given great options there.

Blue, Cyan, Tan? Uhhh...no thanks.
Orange, Grey, Blue? Pass.
Red, Cyan, White? *sigh* Sure, whatever, the red sounds fine.

Thanks for Windblade @Hasbro, she's pretty great. Victorion...not so much.

I don't really care about the G2 stuff, Victorion has an interesting new head mold, incredible combining sword and I like the fact that the combined form is uniformly coloured, it's unfortunate that the colours look like a tray of toffee apples exploded. i'm also a bit surprised that the remolded chopper arms weren't used for the protectobots so their helicopter guy wasn't sporting missile racks.

I haven't seen anything in these reveals that I'm keen on. Scattershot is a massive disappointment.

Love the G2 giftsets, while not needed in my collection its fantastic that Hasbro would go and do them. Hopefully in 2016 we see another G2 Bruticus giftset.

The Fan Combiner - love the sword, love the hands and feet but the rest is an easy pass. Not a fan of the colour schemes at all.

Scattorshot is such a disappointment - didn't Hasbro just say at Botcon that they would be doing teams now, so why are they making Scattorshot part of a new combiner and not doing anything with the torso mode to make it look different to Superion.

News on no Beasts is also very frustrating, and I really hope that it's just part of a late 2016 plan they don't want to talk about. Predaking and Abominus need to be made

So happy that we are getting G2 gift sets... Can't wait to get them :D

Hopefully G2 Devastator isnt too far down the road :p

Victoriton... I am not a fan of the colour, but I will still get it, cause I love my fembots ;)

I think the issue with Victorion's colour scheme is that those three colours could look pretty interesting if the palette was spread between all 5 figures, with each taking on one of the predominant colours and having other colours for back up, however Hasbro decided to have the team share the one colour scheme, and so the figures have come out as they have.

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Originally Posted by Ode to a Grasshopper

To be fair, the fans weren't exactly given great options there.

Blue, Cyan, Tan? Uhhh...no thanks.
Orange, Grey, Blue? Pass.
Red, Cyan, White? *sigh* Sure, whatever, the red sounds fine.

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I think orange grey and blue would work a lot better as long as either orange or blue were used sparingly as spot colour and the break up colour was grey.

Red Cyan and white might have worked to if Hasbro had limited either red or Cyan and broken it up with some white. As it stand Victorion is all Red and Cyan clash with no white at all to break it up. I guess maybe they wanted to ape that old red and blue collector club combiner, who also looked terrible.

If TakaraTomy "wtf'd" at Hasbro chopping the odd combiner limb... i wonder what they think about the fully amputee'd "Computron" they've made!

The more I look at Victorion, the more it grows on me. The colours being so bright along with the head sculpt and sword give it a kind of otherworldly feel which is pretty cool. I hope that's preserved in the final product.

Kind of disappointing. G2 Superion and Motormaster are call, but I probably won't get to buy them, already tight on buying the regular stuff.

Scattershot's actually decent in alt mode and robot mode (mainly the head), but the combined mode is just disappointing. Unless this is some early stage thing, it seems like they just gave up on Computron. Hopefully Takara will satisfy everyone (which they seem to be doing).

Victorion's alright, nothing grand, but there for those that like it.

I was expecting more from SDCC, but at least we got an over compensation at Botcon, with Bruticus, Buzzsaw, Shockwave, Sky Lynx, G1 cars etc, which should keep us (me at least) going for a while.

Somewhat disappointed about no plans for beasties. Hopefully it happens some time.

Victorion's colours look better in the promo shots than the samples at the fair, but then there's the mix of photoshop vs painted up samples at play too.

The more faded green seen in the comic would be nice, but the main catch is the lack of another colour in the mix. Only a few of the G1 scramble city combiners really had a consistent colour scheme and when they did it was three four or five colours in the mix.

I think if they'd been more liberal with the silver/white paint it might work better. For instance paint all the thighs silver or something. Or really reverse out the combinations on the two cars and helicopters - the helicopters look identical in combined mode.

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Originally Posted by griffin

A new Hasbro site is being launched for collectors to see new releases, participate in polls and hear from the Designers.

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Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail.... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(

I have to say Victorion looks quiet terrible. Yeah the colors are gaudy, but that dosen't bother me as much as the lazy use of previous molds. Its a shame they couldn't make at least one new mold. Just to quote something similar to what someone else said, Hasbro should rename Combiner wars, to something like Retool Wars. Lol.
The G2 boxsets for Stunticons, and Aerialbots are exactly as I was hoping for. Maybe they are not must buys, but since I have a shelf with more than a few G2 figures, Im likely to get them.

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Originally Posted by griffin

Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail.... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(

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it almost feels like the rumblings of a funpub replacement.

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

it almost feels like the rumblings of a funpub replacement.

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All they have to do is start doing some fan-voted toys (like the JP Generations book toy last year for Go-Shooter) through that site, and the Collector Club loses its only real monopoly that it has left.

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Originally Posted by Bidoofdude

Kind of disappointing. G2 Superion and Motormaster are call, but I probably won't get to buy them, already tight on buying the regular stuff.

Scattershot's actually decent in alt mode and robot mode (mainly the head), but the combined mode is just disappointing. Unless this is some early stage thing, it seems like they just gave up on Computron. Hopefully Takara will satisfy everyone (which they seem to be doing).

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Yeah, I can easily bypass the G2 Aerielbots, but I must admit the G2 Stunticons look damn good! Considering I already have the G1 versions and am getting the UW Menasor I don't think my budget will allow for a 3rd.

In complete agreeance on Scattorshot. WOuld have preferred something a bit more like his G1 Spacecruiser form as I thought that was an awesome toy - especially with the cannon emplacement 3rd mode. This is good, but nowhere near as good. And combined mode looks WAY too much like Superion! :(

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Originally Posted by Bidoofdude

Victorion's alright, nothing grand, but there for those that like it.

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Originally Posted by Paulbot

Victorion's colours look better in the promo shots than the samples at the fair, but then there's the mix of photoshop vs painted up samples at play too.

The more faded green seen in the comic would be nice, but the main catch is the lack of another colour in the mix. Only a few of the G1 scramble city combiners really had a consistent colour scheme and when they did it was three four or five colours in the mix.

I think if they'd been more liberal with the silver/white paint it might work better. For instance paint all the thighs silver or something. Or really reverse out the combinations on the two cars and helicopters - the helicopters look identical in combined mode.

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Originally Posted by Defcon

I have to say Victorion looks quiet terrible. Yeah the colors are gaudy, but that dosen't bother me as much as the lazy use of previous molds. Its a shame they couldn't make at least one new mold. Just to quote something similar to what someone else said, Hasbro should rename Combiner wars, to something like Retool Wars. Lol.

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It could be worse - the first female combiner could have looked like this :eek: http://gideonhoss.deviantart.com/art...iner-274926397

I was planning on getting the Takara Arielbots and Stuntacons, now with the G2 sets coming out I think that I will give it a miss... :D

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Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev

It could be worse - the first female combiner could have looked like this :eek: http://gideonhoss.deviantart.com/art...iner-274926397

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lol
the names are awesome: motormistress, dragstripper, wildride, rear end and godown!

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Originally Posted by philby

lol
the names are awesome: motormistress, dragstripper, wildride, rear end and godown!

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Thinking of making Rearend my screensaver lol :D

If I knew how to shrink images I'd make it my new Ozformers avatar :p

Some galleries for the SDCC Transformers toy exclusives - Devastator and the 3-pack Combiner Hunters.

The Combiner Wars line has been very exciting with the start of Superion Menasor, Defensor and Devastator but after that it is slowly getting redundant with only lazy repaints and minimal remoulds with only Bruticus seems to be the last to reignite the excitement

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Originally Posted by ampoldj

The Combiner Wars line has been very exciting with the start of Superion Menasor, Defensor and Devastator but after that it is slowly getting redundant with only lazy repaints and minimal remoulds with only Bruticus seems to be the last to reignite the excitement

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Perhaps they had a certain budget for Combiner Wars, and as stated on Hasbro pulse website, they make a second head for every mold but don't necessarily use it. CW will most likely lead into Titan Wars? Just spit balling.

Well we may not understand what Hasbro's budget or target profit is but there seems to be no other toy line with so much redundancy than the CW line. Also we may notice how TFs become smaller and lighter (and weaker plastics) when we compare TFTM toys to TF DoTM/AoE toys.

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Originally Posted by griffin

Looks like the new Hasbro Pulse website is just for American fans (again)... as I had a look at it when I heard that registering gets you (American fans) a welcome package in the mail.... and the registrations screen only allows for American addresses.

The site can still be used for browsing news that are more collector-focused, but if they send out emails or exclusive offers and information, non-Americans can't get access to it.

I seriously doubt that we will see similar set-ups in other countries, like ours. :(

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Just wanted to post an update to this.

I signed up as soon as the pulse site was promoted on the fan sites, not caring about the package, and didn't know until Griffin posted this that I wouldn't be able to receive the emails.

When signing up I entered my address with a state starting with v, as a laugh, figuring that if Hasbro wanted to once again turn their back on their international customers then they could waste one package on an incorrect address.



Then this arrived in the mail today!
http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/...psjibdgmbg.jpg
http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/...psyhwqlgzw.jpg

The package is basically pointless, but it is still funny that I eventually received it.

That is pretty impressive... and if it had something worthwhile in it, I'd be recommending others try it as well.

I wonder how they figured out that you were in Australia, because I don't remember seeing a country option on the registration screen.

Even if you could enter your full address, I'm amazed that they bothered to send it, as it cost them US$8.22, compared to probably a dollar to an American... and they would have been forgiven for not sending it out if they weren't advertising this website to non-Americans.

That SDCC card was kinda pointless to the majority of Americans as well, as they were sent out during SDCC was on, and unless you were already going (bought tickets months ago), I doubt more than a couple people were even able to get anything out of it.

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Originally Posted by griffin

That is pretty impressive... and if it had something worthwhile in it, I'd be recommending others try it as well.

I wonder how they figured out that you were in Australia, because I don't remember seeing a country option on the registration screen.

Even if you could enter your full address, I'm amazed that they bothered to send it, as it cost them US$8.22, compared to probably a dollar to an American... and they would have been forgiven for not sending it out if they weren't advertising this website to non-Americans.

That SDCC card was kinda pointless to the majority of Americans as well, as they were sent out during SDCC was on, and unless you were already going (bought tickets months ago), I doubt more than a couple people were even able to get anything out of it.

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While I was blacking out personal details I (just now realised) also blacked out 'Melbourne', so someone must've noticed that and realised it wasn't an American address.

As for the shipping, it is doubtful that all the people handling the packing and shipping of these have any idea who they are intended for. Someone must've gotten the information from Hasbro's computer system and just figured it was supposed to be posted.

They had all my details except for state and country, even my post code (I just added a zero for their 5 digit zip code) and with the 'VT' where 'VIC' should be, once someone added Australia at the bottom everything that was needed was there :D

That's a kickass cover.

It's an exclusive cover too... so you might be one of the few Australians who will end up with one. (other people will probably get one, but have to pay for it from other people who got it)

Does that mean you are also on their emailing list now too?

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Originally Posted by griffin

It's an exclusive cover too... so you might be one of the few Australians who will end up with one. (other people will probably get one, but have to pay for it from other people who got it)

Does that mean you are also on their emailing list now too?

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Oh the irony. While I've bought a few of the comics, they now sit on a shelf unfinished because I just wasn't that interested :D

I haven't received any emails, do you know if Hasbro have started sending them yet? Looking at the Pulse site there appears to have been only one or two updates since it's launch.