Some "live" photos:
https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocRep...68985403451895
No Autobot crosses on his shoulders and his face looks a little different from Ironhide...
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Some "live" photos:
https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocRep...68985403451895
No Autobot crosses on his shoulders and his face looks a little different from Ironhide...
Its now up in tfi at aud140
I'm probably in the minority that prefers MP Ironballs. Not sold on Ratchet yet
Seriously a Red Cross go suing ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
The world has gone bananas .
They should be ashamed of themselves.
But i think you will pay more than $6 if you wait for release. If I can put it into a business that is a different topic :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Trent
6 a month if I have duplicates and I am buying more than one is a whole different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by ampoldj
Price no buenoQuote:
Originally Posted by megatren
So maybe the sboulder stickers aren't tampo'ed on.Quote:
Originally Posted by MEEEGGGAAATTTRRROOONNN!!!
pensé que sería más baratoQuote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
Coleccionables premi---, uh, Premium Collectables are charging $95 for their MP Ironhide pre-order, so if they can do the same for MP Ratchet then I'll happily throw my money at them. :)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ptakemoney.jpg
Judging from the "live" photos, I suspect that the Red Cross emblems for the shoulders are stickers. As others have mentioned, it's really the only way that TakaraTOMY can legally do it. But making them stickers rather than tampographs means that people can choose to source/make their own Red Cross/Crescent logos and stick it on themselves.
As much as I don't like singling out online retailers, PC actually have them currently at $99.95 a pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Intersite warfare has begunQuote:
Originally Posted by UltimateGalvatron
Señor bien jugado :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Looks like they've increased price since it was first listed. I paid $85 for MP Ironhide through PC, plus $10 ($9.95) for postage, so total came to $95.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatran
Still, $99.95 is still good considering MP Ironhide's 10,000JPY ($115) RRP. :)
The use of the Red Cross emblem is something that is taken extremely seriously, and not just as an issue of copyright.
Source: http://www.redcross.org.au/guide-to-emblem-use.aspxQuote:
The red cross emblem is not a logo nor a trademark. Rather, as the universal emblem of protection in armed conflict, its use is restricted under international humanitarian law and in turn by Australian law.
Source: http://www.redcross.org/about-us/med...rand-standardsQuote:
...it is one of our most valuable assets. It is an image that stands as a worldwide symbol of goodwill and humanitarianism.
Source: http://www.redcross.org.au/the-emblem.aspxQuote:
In Australia, the red cross and red crescent emblems are protected by the Geneva Conventions Act 1957. In a domestic situation the emblems must not be used without first obtaining the written permission of the Minister for Defence, and under Commonwealth law, penalties may apply. Red Cross is charged with following up on misuses, found most commonly in medical and commercial spheres, and takes this role very seriously. Misuse, or simple lack of understanding, in peacetime is likely to weaken the effectiveness of the emblems within a war zone.
Source: https://www.redcross.org.uk/Forms/We...-emblem-misuseQuote:
The emblems must be trusted absolutely to signify neutrality and protection. That is why their unauthorised use is forbidden in international and national law. Imitations of the red cross and red crescent emblems, the words (names) "Red Cross" and "Red Crescent" and similar wording, are also protected by law.
Source: http://www.redcross.org.au/emblem-awareness.aspxQuote:
Misuse of the emblem in peacetime diminishes its protective power when it is most needed: in times of war.
Source: https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/d...isc/5a6j7j.htmQuote:
The red cross emblem – a red cross on a white ground – is a symbol of protection (protective use) and of membership of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement (indicative use). In times of armed conflict it is the visible sign of the protection conferred by the Geneva Conventions on the victims and on those who come to their aid; in peacetime it shows that a person or object is linked to the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, of which the International Committee of the Red Cross is the founding body. Hence the emblem is also a symbol of the Movement's seven Fundamental Principles: humanity, impartiality, neutrality, independence, voluntary service, unity and universality.
TakaraTomy probably figured it wasn't worthwhile having to potentially go through all the legal action that would result from putting a Red Cross on Ratchet. The solution they came up with is pretty visually interesting, IMO, and it largely preserves the look of the original character model.
Additional info:
https://www.icrc.org/eng/war-and-law...iew-emblem.htm
http://www.redcross.ca/about-us/abou...he-world-to-us
http://www.redcross.org.au/emblem-awareness.aspx
I agree. Having a red cross on my toy ambulance is definitely going to weaken the effectiveness of the Red Cross in war time.
Well it's been used on anime ambulances for kids.
I am not bothered anyway everyone who is fan enough will break the rules so too bad Red Cross.
TakaraTOMY doesn't make these rules, but obviously they need to ensure that their products aren't infringing any laws. The other alternative is to completely avoid using the Red Cross logo and use something completely different, like the cardio-pulse logo as seen on TF1/RotF Ratchet, Animated Ratchet and Prime Ratchet.
Yeah I know, I could just show you my kids play may with a Red Cross on the hospital printed. I just saying. No I am not unhappy with TT or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Like said small issue but I would have preferred a friendly face for ratchet.
I prefer Ironhide and don't really care about the cross on Ratchet. Now if the toy is rubbish I'll complain but that's a little while away before we get them in hand to see how good they are;):)
Really loving the vehicle mode - just seems to pop! :)
To be honest some of the 3rd party Ironhides/Ratchet have better aesthetics but I would hope the TT stuff has better QC.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1orion2many
Lol better QC? With the amount of mp popping out it be worse than current IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderken17
Is a shame they are not really active in this department.
I can't think of a single, notable QC issue that any of my MPs have had with the exception of Rodimus Prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by drifand
I'd say that's pretty good.
Same, except Rodimus not a single issue so not sure what these supposed QC issues are :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
You guys must be lucky! Rodimus is not just a QC issue it should be recalled (if they do on toys) :p
From paint defects, very loose joints, to even a creased folded in half bio card you name it I got it (except the same left or right of whatever part it is may it be arm, leg, or accessories thankfully, knocks on wood) :eek:
Your luck will run out soon as it is they are pumping out more in a short period. Chances of bad paint jobs are higher.
But hey you could be lucky.
All I am saying is I should not even see a single complaint in the forums, and now that is good QC.
With 3 bad complaints on mp-18b several with prowl and I had slight with wheeljack.
I expect it to be worse if they continue the same standard.
Collect MISB. Ignorance is bliss:p
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by DaptoDog
👌👍
+100Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Until I started with MP and been paying this much I got curious to open the boxes and check that they did not put a My Little Pony in it (though my daughter would love it) :p
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Originally Posted by DaptoDog
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Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
Heh - that must be why I am so happy with my Hasbro Rodimus :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ampoldj
Haha I'm so fussy about things this is one less thing I have to worry about lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ampoldj
My Hasbro Roddy is fine. Transformed a few weeks ago with no issue. I have a Takara Roddy waiting to see how it goes, I think there are a few minor problems with it like the wings scalping in the trailer and the backpack not staying connected properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev
But otherwise, my MP experience is a positive one. I expect it will continue to be so.
Hasbro actually fixed some of the issues from TakaraTOMY Rodimus, including thickening the tabs on the gun handles so that they can actually be held properly. The spoiler does clip in better on the back of the robot, although still prone to dropping off (just not as prone as TakTOM's).
So there is rumoured that some ratchet have a Red Cross you need to open to find out. Lol
Anyway I don't keep my toys in boxes. Even now when I have hardly the time to play with them I still make the effort to inspect what I bought.
I'll probably get around to opening him when I get MP Hot Rod so I can have Hot Rod & Rodimus Prime next to each other :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
But if you have the Hasbro version is more Hot rod than Rodimus?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev
Of course debatable. I was actually thinking at all whether to get hot rod.
you're easily surprised;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
My screen was dripping with your sarcasem:eek:
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Originally Posted by Paulbot
I recall in the late 90's there was a SWAT style First person shooter set in Las Vegas that had intended on using the Red Cross emblem on health packs in-game. they were enforced not to, for all of the reasons listed above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnus
While you wouldn't think an emblem on a toy or in a war type game would impact the effect of the symbol, in peace or war time, them be the rules.
I actually quite like the look of the cross with the Autobot sigil in front of it like that.
Looking at Ratchet on my Phone over the weekend, there's something about all the white that doesn't appeal as much as the Ironhide. maybe the lighting?
I'll be buying it that's for sure.
the second face, seems to have bulging eyes, where is that from?
I am loving all the accessories that these two guys look to be coming with.
I think that may be due to the angle that we're seeing the second face from... if you look at the pic, we're viewing the eyeholes from under the point of the crest:Quote:
Originally Posted by UltraMarginal
http://i.imgur.com/xJTnUdM.jpg
So I think most of that bug-eyed look wont be seen once the face is on because the crest will be covering it.
Noticed last night this was already listed at Takara Tomy Mall
http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810833956/
Nothing new til I noticed the accessories and contents included. It says includes Marking Seal (sticker sheet). So it may be for the crosses as the sample shown at Bic Camera event has none.