Transformers Toy Rumours (must note a source)

I wondered if he's dropping little hints like this with a Dragstrip story he posted a short while ago

I can't work out how to post it, but if you go to this link: markclonus dragstrip - Google Search - you'll find a photo of United Frenzy riding Dragstrip, but in a different colour scheme. However, it could also be his painted test shot of what was supposed to be RtS Demolition Rumble back in 2011, which is when I believe he started out doing colour layouts for TFs.

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This will probably age badly, but I choose to interpret this Ned Flanders graphic as a hint about project yellow. :p
https://i.ibb.co/8bpFWgT/Screenshot-...-Instagram.jpg

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Someone in America claims to have found product numbers for three more Beast Wars Reissues - Terrorsaur, K-9, Iguanus.

Some new leaks.
From twitter comes a redeco of the yet-to-be-released Elita-1 as Minerva (new head and new top of car).
From one of the regular leakers comes images of the green Grapple that looks to be a Walmart exclusive.
And from Canada comes a listing at Gamestop for a toy listed as a GEN SDCC toy, for about au$150 (no pics or names yet).

That Minerva looks pretty good.

Gotta say though, I'm not really excited to see any of the rumoured figures until we see Pointblank. How good he is will determine how good Sureshot will be.... and boy do I want a good Sureshot.

Yup, Minerva be pretty. Shame we didn?t get it as a Headmaster/Titanmaster, but I could never afford the original Minerva at eBay prices, so it will be the first non-3rd party one I?ll own.

If I can get it from Walgreens. Stupid us exclusives.

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Originally Posted by reillyd

If I can get it from Walgreens. Stupid us exclusives.

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Asian retailers are the solution here.

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Originally Posted by JJJ

Asian retailers are the solution here.

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100%
Theyre only an exclusive to Walgreens in the US, it's game on for the rest of the world.

Aargh such brightness! The eyes they sting! Is hauler ever been that bright green before?

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Originally Posted by Autocon

Aargh such brightness! The eyes they sting! Is hauler ever been that bright green before?

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He was green for his Ehobby G1 toy.

Project Yellow images doing the rounds.
Yellow and black G1 Devastator with Tonka and Autobot tampos
I'm down to getting jiggy with it.

Some of next year's listings have allegedly been found in Walmart's inventory system. Big grain of salt time, doubly so because it includes a voyager Tarn (from the team of Decepticons whose only purpose is torture, up to and including alt-modes matching that purpose - such as an electric chair).

If accurate, well... Some of these intrigue me a lot.

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Tra Gen legacy Velocitron deluxe Crasher
Product number: F8050
EAN: 5010994186609

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Deluxe Shadow Striker
Product Number: F8049
EAN: 5010994186586

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron Voyager Hot Rod
Product Number: F8054
EAN: 5010994186593

Tra Gen Legacy Velocitron LDR 2
Product Number: F8052
EAN: 5010994186616

Now onto what looks like the first wave of 2023 legacy!

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Soundblaster
Product Number: F7178
EAN: 5010994196721

Tra Gen Legacy EV Core Slug
Product number: F7188
EAN: 5010994196738

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Core Sludge
Product Number: F7176
EAN: 5010994196714

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Needlenose
Product Number: F7190
EAN: 5010994196950

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Hot Shot
Product Number: F791
EAN: 5010994196967

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Deluxe Junkion 1
Product Number: F7192
EAN: 5010994196974

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Tarn
Product Number: F7206
EAN: 5010994197278

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Voyager Leo Prime
Product Number: F7207
EAN: 5010994197285

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Prime Skyquake
product Number: F2989
EAN: 5010994207816

Tra Gen Legacy Ev Leader Armada Megatron
Product Number: F7230
EAN: 5010994207786

Transformers collaborative :
Tra Gen Project TPG2 (I believe this the Maverick reissue)
EAN: 5010994186630

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Originally Posted by reillyd

Yup, Minerva be pretty. Shame we didn?t get it as a Headmaster/Titanmaster,

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Just think of her as Victory Minerva, since she was no longer a Headmaster after the end of the Masterforce. :) Time to go help Wheeljack and Perceptor rebuild God Ginrai as Victory Leo! :)

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Some of next year's listings have allegedly been found in Walmart's inventory system.

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Well that's a disappointing list for me.

Core Dino's seem interesting. Otherwise Yay Needlenose!!

Maybe I cross my fingers that Crasher is a Porch 965/926 which can then be re-used for Backstreet... then I really would be excited.

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Otherwise Yay Needlenose!!

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I hope we get his Targetmaster partners also at some point.

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I hope we get his Targetmaster partners also at some point.

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Surely at worst they do a slight remould/recolour of Scoops Targetmasters?

More importantly, hopefully he isn't a tetrajet.

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Otherwise Yay Needlenose!!

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Yep! Looking forward to completing my CHUG Decepticon Targetmasters! :)
Now if only they'd release CHUG versions of Sureshot, Pointblank, Landfill and Quickmix!

Well, the rumours are pretty firm on Pointblank coming this year. Wave 3 deluxe.

Diaclone Blue Trailbreaker looks like it's coming.

https://www.seibertron.com/transform...evealed/47051/

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That's a terrible result. Bumblebee has been depicted as just over human size and we got a nice deluxe of him.

I'd be terribly upset if we didn't get a deluxe of Wheelie. As it stands, the TR Wheelie is loads better.

Also, in the news department, further leaks in relation to Pointblank and Skullgrin. The big news being Pointblank will have a Targetmaster and Skullgrin is deluxe sized.

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Did not expect that, not after Iguanus. So now they're going to make precisely nobody happy, it seems...

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Diaclone Blue Trailbreaker looks like it's coming.

https://www.seibertron.com/transform...evealed/47051/

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http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/071403.jpg

I have moved posts about the Studio Series Core Class Wheelie, Ratchet and Laserbeak (pink Bumblebee) into an existing news topic of the next wave of Studio Series toys.

Catching up on rumours from the last few weeks....

June 26th - Vintage Beast Wars Terrorsaur in-hand

June 28th - Earthspark listings

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this time in the form of “Transformers Terran Deluxe” figures, priced at $24.99 and currently all listed under codenames. “Terran” may be the codename for the upcoming Earthspark series. If so, it seems we could be getting Deluxe versions of these characters right off the bat, which would be good news for older collectors.

But that’s not all – in addition, we also have listings for $11.99 products, bearing some of the same names. These are currently a mystery, although we suspect they’re more gimmick-based figures.
In non-Earthspark news, there is also a listing for a “Bumblebee Gen SS Voy Nest 2” priced at $33.99.

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July 3rd - Studio Series Rise of the Beasts

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• Studio Series 86 Leader Snarl
• Studio Series ROTB Leader Oscar (Scourge)
• Studio Series ROTB Leader Cyclops (Optimus Primal)

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Good to see a Leader Snarl to complete the set of large Dinobots, as I suspect Swoop would end up being a Voyager.

(have to do all this in several posts... as the board won't let me post more than 3 links at a time)

July 4th - Studio Series WFC

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“Gen Studio Series DLX WFC Bumblebee”

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Could Studio Series really start delving into the WFC computer game? That really starts to dilute its original purpose of Movie toys... which was really supposed to just be live action movies, so I guess anything is allowed now just to keep the toyline running.

July 4th - Studio Series mv7 Airazor

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Studio Series Rise of the Beasts Deluxe Titan – the codename of Airazor!

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July 4th - Studio Series mv7 Cheetor

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Studio Series Rise of the Beasts listings for 2023: Voyager Butch, the codename for Cheetor, and Voyager Apollo, who is currently an unknown character!

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July 4th - Studio Series mv7 Bumblebee

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Bumblebee (codename George) will also be getting a Studio Series Rise of the Beasts Deluxe figure next year

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July 5th - Legacy Metalhawk

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Legacy Voyager Metalhawk

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July 5th - Studio Series & Legacy (three of these four have now been found on Amazon and we've seen the official images)

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Transformers Studio series Core Class Rumble (Blue)

• STUDIO SERIES CORE CLASS: Core Class figures are 3.5-inch collectible action figures that allow fans to collect mini versions of iconic characters from the movie universe
• 3.5-INCH SCALE DECEPTICON RUMBLE (BLUE): Figure features vivid, movie-inspired deco, is highly articulated for posability
• 2 ICONIC MODES: Figure features classic conversion between robot and cassette modes in 9 steps. Perfect for fans looking for a more advanced converting figure. For kids and adults ages 8 and up
• AWESOME ACCESSORIES: Comes with 2 thruster blasters and 2 pile driver accessories
• BIG SCREEN-INSPIRED: This 3.5-inch Decepticon Rumble (Blue) figure is inspired by the character’s appearance in The Transformers: The Movie

Transformers Studio Series Core Ratchet

• STUDIO SERIES CORE CLASS: Core Class figures are 3.5-inch collectible action figures that allow fans to collect mini versions of iconic characters inspired by epic scenes from the Transformers movie universe, now including The Transformers: The Movie!
• 3.5-INCH SCALE AUTOBOT RATCHET: Figure features vivid, movie-inspired deco, is highly articulated for posability
• 2 ICONIC MODES: Figure features classic conversion between robot and ambulance modes in 15 steps. For kids and adults ages 8 and up
• CLASSIC ACCESSORIES: Comes with 2 blasters that attach in both modes
• BIG SCREEN-INSPIRED: This 3.5-inch Autobot Ratchet figure is inspired by the character’s appearance in the 1986 film The Transformers: The Movie!

Transformers Legacy Voyager Armada Starscream

• TRANSFORMERS ARMADA-INSPIRED DESIGN: This Transformers: Legacy 7-inch Armada Universe Starscream robot toy is inspired by the animated series, Transformers: Armada, updated with a Generations-style design
• UNIVERSES COLLIDE: Universes collide with Transformers: Legacy! This epic line of Transformers toys brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse
• 2 EPIC MODES: Action figure converts from robot to jet mode in 18 steps. Features articulated jet turbines and comes with a Star Saber sword accessory inside by the animated series
• HARNESS THE POWER OF ENERGON: Gear up with the most powerful substance on Cybertron: Energon! This Armada Universe Starscream figure comes with an Energon sword accessory that attaches with both modes
• SCAN THE CODE: Scan the code on each package to reveal character tech specs from across the multiverse! Collect other Legacy figures to reveal their character tech specs (each sold separately, subject to availabili

Transformers Legacy Voyager Predacon Inferno

• BEAST WARS INSPIRED DESIGN: This Transformers: Legacy 7-inch Predacon Inferno robot toy is inspired by the animated series, Beast Wars: Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design
• UNIVERSES COLLIDE: Universes collide with Transformers: Legacy! This epic line of Transformers toys brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse
• 2 EPIC MODES: Action figure converts from robot to fire ant mode in 26 steps. Features articulated mandibles, robot mode jaw, and realistic fire ant textures
• HARNESS THE POWER OF ENERGON: Gear up with the most powerful substance on Cybertron: Energon! This Predacon Inferno figure comes with a blaster accessory that attaches with both modes
• SCAN THE CODE: Scan the code on each package to reveal character tech specs from across the multiverse! Collect other Legacy figures to reveal their character tech specs (each sold separately, subject to availability)

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I find it odd that they specifically descibe Rumble as being blue in the product description, as if it is really important that fans know what they are going to get. I guess with it being part of the Studio Series toyline, it has to be blue because that was its colour in the 1986 Movie... but if it was part of the Legacy toyline, it would have been red to properly homage the original toy.

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July 6th - Studio Series WFC

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“Gen Studio Series DLX WFC Barricade”

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July 14th - Legacy listings on Amazon UK (no images yet, and should be legit, but until there are images or an official announcement, not every Amazon listing has turned out to be true)

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Generations Legacy Deluxe Autobot Pointblank & Autobot Peacemaker
Harness the power of Energon with the Transformers: Legacy Deluxe Autobot Pointblank and Autobot Peacemaker robot toys! Pointblank is tired of the endless Cybertronian war. He believes that words are more dangerous than weapons, so he doesn’t say much. Peacemaker always tries to cheer up his partner, with little success. Universes collide! Transformers: Legacy brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse. Figures feature deco inspired by their universe with an updated Generations design. In honor of the almost 40-year legacy of Transformers entertainment, the fandoms come together from across the Transformers multiverse, all in one toy line. Transformers: Legacy action figures are great kids’ toys and exciting collectibles for fans of all ages. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

• TRANSFORMERS G1-INSPIRED DESIGN: This Transformers: Legacy 5.5-inch Autobot Pointblank robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design
• UNIVERSES COLLIDE: Universes collide with Transformers: Legacy! This epic line of Transformers toys brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse
• 2 EPIC MODES: Autobot Pointblank action figure converts from robot to Cybertronian racecar mode in 17 steps
• COMES WITH TARGETMASTER FIGURE: Includes an Autobot Peacemaker mini figure that converts into a weapon accessory! Convert from robot to blaster mode in 2 steps
• SCAN THE CODE: Scan the code on each package to reveal character tech specs from across the multiverse! Collect other Legacy figures to reveal their character tech specs (each sold separately, subject to availability)

Generations Legacy Deluxe Dead End
Harness the power of Energon with the Transformers: Legacy Deluxe Dead End robot toy! Dead End thinks it’s pointless to keep fighting in the Cybertronian war. When he’s not being forced to fight, he spends his time shining himself. Universes collide! Transformers: Legacy brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse. Figures feature deco inspired by their universe with an updated Generations design. In honor of the almost 40-year legacy of Transformers entertainment, the fandoms come together from across the Transformers multiverse, all in one toy line. Transformers: Legacy action figures are great kids’ toys and exciting collectibles for fans of all ages. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

• TRANSFORMERS G1-INSPIRED DESIGN: This Transformers: Legacy 5.5-inch Dead End robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design
• UNIVERSES COLLIDE: Universes collide with Transformers: Legacy! This epic line of Transformers toys brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse
• 2 EPIC MODES: Action figure converts from robot to sports car mode in 15 steps. Comes with 2 Energon blaster accessories
• COMBINE TO FORM MENASOR: Collect other Transformers: Legacy combiner figures to form Menasor! (Each sold separately, subject to availability.) Dead End toy combines as the Menasor figure’s left arm
• SCAN THE CODE: Scan the code on each package to reveal character tech specs from across the multiverse! Collect other Legacy figures to reveal their character tech specs (each sold separately, subject to availability)

Generations Legacy Deluxe Skullgrin
Harness the power of Energon with the Transformers: Legacy Deluxe Skullgrin robot toy! Skullgrin is a destructive menace on the battlefield. He won’t stop his attack until everything is completely destroyed. Universes collide! Transformers: Legacy brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse. Figures feature deco inspired by their universe with an updated Generations design. In honor of the almost 40-year legacy of Transformers entertainment, the fandoms come together from across the Transformers multiverse, all in one toy line. Transformers: Legacy action figures are great kids’ toys and exciting collectibles for fans of all ages. Transformers and all related characters are trademarks of Hasbro.

• TRANSFORMERS G1-INSPIRED DESIGN: This Transformers: Legacy 5.5-inch Skullgrin robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design
• UNIVERSES COLLIDE: Universes collide with Transformers: Legacy! This epic line of Transformers toys brings together fan-favorite characters from across the Transformers multiverse
• 2 EPIC MODES: Skullgrin action figure converts from robot to Cybertronian tank mode in 20 steps
• FEATURES AND ACCESSORIES: Comes with 2 weapon accessories that can be held by the figure as blasters or swords. Features removable swivel turrets on the figure’s tank mode
• SCAN THE CODE: Scan the code on each package to reveal character tech specs from across the multiverse! Collect other Legacy figures to reveal their character tech specs (each sold separately, subject to availability)

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A couple of Movie listings on a European Amazon sites....

Studio Series Leader Class The Fallen - noted for October, and if that date is true, it would be part of the Fall 2022 wave, as we only know Voyager (Galvatron, Thundercracker), Deluxe (Bumblebee, Sideways, Arcee) and Core class (Laserbeak, Ratchet, Wheelie) so far. (it doesn't mean that there will always be something new in each size class, but the timing would line up with them)

Studio Series Deluxe Class Crosshairs - also noted for October... which if true would mean four new Deluxe toys for September/October. It is strange that it wasn't revealed with the other three, and if it isn't part of that wave, it would be very unlikely that there would be another wave released so soon after Bumblebee/Sideways/Arcee.

All of the Amazon links have now been removed, so they might be getting an official reveal at SDCC next week.

The rumour of a Vintage Beast Wars release of Retrax is gaining more ground, as an ebay listing has shown a small official image of the packaging, which resembles the type we've seen with the Vintage reissues.

I really hope it isn't being released, but I have a bad feeling that it is... as it could kill off any more Vintage reissues, from it shelfwarming worse than the first ones.

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I really hope it isn't being released, but I have a bad feeling that it is... as it could kill off any more Vintage reissues, from it shelfwarming worse than the first ones.

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Who would you like to see released that you think wouldn't shelfwarm?

Looks like at least one factory sample of Crasher has been stolen and flogged on Carousell. And that's the toy-version head for Mirage, not the head shown on the recently found renders.

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Who would you like to see released that you think wouldn't shelfwarm?

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I'd like to see more of the show characters be re-released. Of course price is a factor, but for some figures like Retrax, it wouldn't matter how cheap it is listed for. It was a massive shelf-warmer in the 90s, and it will be again.

The toy isn't completely bad, as I think the beast mode has amazing sculpting and works perfectly as a pill bug (rolling up), but the "primary" mode (the robot mode) is heavily compromised in appearance and playability (not to mention very difficult to even stay standing with the tiny feet and heavy backpack).

Images of what could be a Shattered Glass Flamewar toy showed up from a UK online store, and if it turns out to be legit, I will move it to a proper news topic.
(it is likely to be officially revealed at SDCC next week... as this online store was probably sent the new product images to be ready to list pre-orders on the day of the reveal, but shouldn't have leaked them yet)

Flamewar appears to be a redeco of the Legacy Arcee, done to homage a BotCon toy from way back in 2005... but like Slicer, the allegiance is wrong, or being placed in Shattered Glass is wrong, as the original Flamewar was a Decepticon in those colours, and yet as part of Shattered Glass it still has the same colour scheme. Granted, on some rare occasions there have been some Shattered Glass toys that had similar colours to the regular universe toy, but they still had something different about them to make it worth issuing a "new" toy for fans to collect a "new" toy.

This Flamewar also comes with a Battlemaster (Fireglide - a redeco of the Pteraxadon toy from Siege), which doesn't seem necessary other than to increase the price of this toy, as the original Flamewar toy had a crossbow, not an axe.

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/071301.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/071302.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/071303.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/071304.jpg

The original 2005 toy -

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/botcon/bc05/m97.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/botcon/bc05/m40.jpg

There was also a toy in 2012 in TFPrime, and all three times it has been a redeco of an earlier Arcee motorcycle toy.

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I'd like to see more of the show characters be re-released. Of course price is a factor, but for some figures like Retrax, it wouldn't matter how cheap it is listed for. It was a massive shelf-warmer in the 90s, and it will be again.

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I suppose if there's any I'd look forward to it'd be Quickstrike and Spittor.... however I'm not confident they wouldn't shelfwarm since even Rattrap and the leaders are.

The first wave was very poorly priced, and by the time that was fixed, it was too late.
And Rattrap, along with any of the original Basics (which would be like Core Class today), was wrongly priced by Hasbro (globally, not just here) as the same as the Deluxe toys, making them even worse value. At least with Rattrap being a key cartoon character some would have been more willing to buy it, but the same can't be said about one that hasn't yet been released, as it wasn't even a show character, so if it has a Deluxe price tag it will not do well at all.

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Looks like at least one factory sample of Crasher has been stolen and flogged on Carousell. And that's the toy-version head for Mirage, not the head shown on the recently found renders.

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Some of those images of what could be Crasher...

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/072001.jpg

http://www.toycollectors.com.au/news/2022/072002.jpg

Here we go again with more photos of what could be MP Cliffjumper.

If it's official, then they've tweaked the MP Bumblebee v2 mold for the altmode shell to hold together more effectively, and maybe slight improvement to the feet.

With the numbers on it I think its a test cliffy

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What does 'test' sample mean in this context? I'm unfamiliar with design or factory QC processes. Does it mean we're very likely to see this mass-produced soon etc.?

Factory test shot - a pre-production sample made to make sure that the production model will be right. Could be checking the colours, could be checking the physical fit (to make sure the thing can actually transform, with parts moving past each other rather then through :)), could just be checking that the mould produces the required shapes without defect.

Normally this might indicate that the toy isn't too far off (the Star Sabre toys recently shown off at SDCC were all test shots of one sort or another, and it is due out some time before the year is over), but this Cliffjumper seems to have had a history of revisions, so who knows?

Playing devil's advocate here for a minute... since this toy has been leaked for well over a year now and we have suspiciously had no hint or mention of Cliffjumper from TakaraTomy (or any other official JP source) what if, this "Masterpiece Cliffjumper" wasn't actually done by TakaraTomy.

What if these samples were being done by one of the KO companies that have been replicating various MPs within months of their release, or a 3rd party company... by replicating all of the parts of the Bumblebee toy and swapping out a few parts. It probably wouldn't be too difficult for some of those companies that have been doing Masterpiece scaled figures with significant detailing... to strip out a Bumblebee toy and replace enough parts to replicate Cliffjumper.

I know that TakaraTomy operates to a different strategy to Hasbro (Hasbro would often do an official reveal within days or weeks of something that has leaked), but this just seems like a really long time for a toy to be floating around and not be included in a product display somewhere in Japan or Hong Kong... considering how they often display grey prototypes or odd-coloured prototypes (like MP Trailbreaker at the recent HK exhibition) just to have something out there to hype up the interest from their target market. To have these samples of Cliffjumper look to be a production level sample, it just doesn't make sense that it would already be in production (or ready to be in production) and not be listed anywhere for pre-order yet.
(I don't think we've ever had a Masterpiece toy be released straight to sale without going through a pre-order period... and pre-order periods these days for MP toys are 6-9 months now.)

Movie Masterpiece rumour that shouldn't happen, but probably will - ROTF redeco of MPM-10 Starscream (with the Cybertronian tattoos).

Two reasons why I think it shouldn't happen - 1) we just had MPM-10 Starscream released in the last couple of years, I don't think we need another one while there are plenty of other characters to do first (including the last two of the robot cast of the 2007 movie - 3 if you count Frenzy)... 2) technically we already have MPM ROTF Starscream, as MPM-1, which was just the Japanese release of Leader class Starscream from 2010.

It also shows how it was the wrong decision to start the new Movie Masterpiece toys from number 3, as it means that the first two are considered part of the series, even though they are a completely different style and size to the current ones. They should have started from number 1, and there wouldn't have been confusion because this is the Hasbro MPMs, while the first two in 2010 were Japanese MPMs.