Once you see that Hasbro version of MP-22 you will be all over it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by millhouse
Just like me... :D
If we get a Slicer repaint from Wheeljack/Exhaust I will be in heaven.
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Once you see that Hasbro version of MP-22 you will be all over it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by millhouse
Just like me... :D
If we get a Slicer repaint from Wheeljack/Exhaust I will be in heaven.
I honestly don't think so! Happy for those who do if it arrives.Quote:
Originally Posted by MayzaPrime
I had two complaints about MP UM. 1; shoulder joints look like they could be weak. 2; the colour of the inner legs. Good to see the legs now have a couple of extra parts just to make the colour more accurate.
I agree with Paulbot. If Hasbro USA are going to do their own version, it would make more sense to give it toy-accurate colours (including a toy-accurate chrome bumper) to distinguish it from the TakaraTOMY version. I personally like how Hasbro has done that with some of their MPs in the past; i.e. Starscream (whose Hasbro colours kick butt all over Takara's), Skywarp, Rodimus, Soundwave. I personally prefer TakaraTOMY's version, but I do agree that it would be better for Hasbro USA to give their version a more distinctive colour scheme. We know that TakaraTOMY always goes for cartoon-likeness, so Hasbro might as well go for toy-accuracy.
The only thing is, if they did do a toy-accurate MP Ultra Magnus, what colours should the eyes be? Yellow like on the box/tech specs art, or white like the G1 toy (i.e. inner robot head's colour)? I'd personally prefer yellow, as it would better offset the silver face. Also... Hasbro could arguably cost cut and give their MP Ultra Magnus a completely blue head, which is also legitimately toy-accurate! :D ;)
Btw, Hasbro are expecting to receive MP22 next month, which makes sense if TRU are expecting it in February.
OH MY
that looks really good/interesting
Thanks for spoiling the transformation for me...
Clever wheel deception
I see what they did there ;)
Yay, he has a standing up truck monster mode! Just what I wanted.
I think I prefer the lighter blue but not a major deal here.
Serious? If you're worried about that sort of stuff you should stay out of the MP threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
What other characters could this mould possibly be used for? Perhaps a diaclone repaint down the track?
I like to think the transformers brand is doing well enough that they don't need to be looking for repaints in every mold.
But if a repaint is inevitable, I suspect there will be a Year of the Dog release.
im actually hoping for one... of course it has to have a nice touch to it. clear plastic or gold chrome etc :pQuote:
Originally Posted by CBratron
Heh, it's great to see colour photos of parts of the transformation after hours of staring at the instructions' illustrations. :o Anyway, for anyone who might care, here are images from the instruction booklet pertaining to the pics above. ;) The third image shows a few more steps beyond what's seen in the photo, so anyone avoiding transformation spoilers may want to avoid scrolling beyond the second image.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiden
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps55021f42.jpg
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No, you need to be considerate of others and let people know that the link includes spoilers and not just post something in plain view that could be considered a spoiler. At least Gok was nice enough to say spoilers ahead, the least you could do is follow his example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent
Looks like a very simple transformation, nothing so far seems to scream out to me "wow that's insanely complex and quite ingenious" like other Masterpiece releases. The faux wheels in robot mode are a nice touch though :)
These leaked instruction images are getting me excited. I mean, more than I already was. :D:D
Lol it wasn't Trent who "spoiled" it in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
And I don't mean to put words in Gok's mouth but I'm thinking Gok put spoiler warnings because of your initial rant. If it wasn't for initial rant somehow I don't think Gok would have thought to put spoiler warnings for a transformation?
Although I could be wrong :rolleyes:
Lift this, Lift that..... Surely some of those should be "Rotate".....
Here's the original Japanese version. 起こします means to lift or raise up, and 回転 means to rotate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...psb0e6c4ea.jpg
Well looks like if I follow the English instructions I'm going to be breaking his foot off....
And anyway, you've translated 2 words, what's the whole last panel say about the calf?
Has everyone stopped trying to figure out transformations when they get a toy in hand or something? I look forward to figuring it out when I get it in hand and not going to youtube or the manual till after I figure it out. It's far more satisfying to figure something out yourself than going off manuals or videos.
no, can't say i feel any extra sense of pride or self satisfaction when i figure out how to manipulate a mass-produced plastic toy without looking at the instructions. But... whatever floats your boatQuote:
Originally Posted by DELTAprime
I would have break something, I definitely follow instructions.
I would strongly suggest not to view post of the instructions if you feel that it is taking the fun out of what you are about to attempt transformation without a guide.
The English version is the translation of what the Japanese version says. So if you think that saying "lift" is an inaccurate description then take that up with Takara Tomy, because that's what they've written in the original instructions. I merely translated it to English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayt
sorry to DELTA if you feel the pics i linked are spoilers...
in future, i will mark everything as a spoiler.
Gok - was the english translation of the instructions a part of your role in translating/adapting the bio book for UM?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Pretty much. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by xlojnr
What I did was:
* Translated the instructions
* Re-wrote the bio. Original bio is written from a Japanese continuity POV, so I re-wrote it from a G1 Anglophone continuity POV (e.g. disregarding events from Scramble City etc.). I also made a reference to IDW Ultra Magnus.
* Translated/adapted the little blurbs (about his transformation, weapons, abilities etc.).
* Edited the "History of Ultra Magnus" page on the back cover. It's the same style as the "History of Soundwave" page on the back of MP Soundwave's booklet, but the original version is totally Takara-biased (understandably), so I changed it to make it Hasbro-biased. I removed some of the Takara-exclusive UMs and replaced them with some Hasbro-exclusive UMs. However, the draft of the booklet that I received did not include this edition. I did mention it to Hasbro AU, who agreed with my suggested changes and said that they would speak to Hasbro HK about it; but that's the last I heard of it. So I have no idea if Hasbro HK agreed with my changes here, or stuck with their version which is a straight up English translation of the Takara-biased Japanese source.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps52e32ae7.jpg
L: From the original Japanese booklet, R: a rough MS Paint mock-up of what I've recommended for the Hasbro version.
One problem was that we had a VERY short time frame to complete this project. I was literally only given three days to do translate/adapt the booklet! :eek: And I was really sick on the 2nd day, and had to go to work on the 1st and 3rd days. In fact, I didn't start working on it until the evening of Day 1.
Hasbro gave me even less time with the next project, but that's a really simple toy/character, so luckily I was able to turn it around pretty quickly. They gave me about a week for the latest one I did (which I finished 2 days ago), so hopefully I did a better job on that one. But yeah, I'm spending hours of my spare time at nights and weekends doing this stuff, in between work and family commitments. :o
First of all, I'm like DeltaPrime, in that Transformers toys are designed as puzzles... so I always try to figure it out first before using instructions - because like a mystery book or movie, you only get one chance to work out the mystery for yourself, and only one chance to be surprised at the process and outcome.
This is why I don't pay much attention, or scrutinise images too keenly, in case it gives away something clever or hidden in the toy... so I will scroll past images that get too detailed, instead of looking at them, so that it doesn't "spoil" my one chance to enjoy the puzzle element of the toy.
Especially with the more expensive toys, as that is one of the cost/value elements of the toy to then evaluate if it was worth the expense (along with the elements of playability, sculpting, size, complexity/engineering, colours, etc).
Saying all that, people need to be aware that EVERYTHING in a News section posting should be treated or expected to be a spoiler, and only needs to be hidden if it relates to another item or element that isn't the subject of that news topic.
Otherwise, we'll end up having everything hidden, and people being too afraid to post up news... which makes my job easier for not having to post up all news postings.
On this occasion, this was actually a topic (with title saying so) that was to reveal images of the toy before its release. So all images should be treated as potential spoilers, because even in just images of their two modes and close-up of parts & limbs, it will reveal things that might not have been known until you get the toy out of the box.
If it is a significantly different element that could be seen as spoiler-ish in a general news topic, it CAN be split off into new topics. (like having a separate movie news topic for movie plots and trailers)
Full transformations could be something deemed different enough, to spoil the more complex and expensive toys, but a poll will be posted (soon-ish) in the intro/info section to see what most members think.
I just don't want to go so far as to having all potential transformation spoilers be hidden or in separate topics, or as a link to the image... as most toy photos released before the toy comes out will usually give away transformations, particularly to the keen-eyed people.
We've already had a heap of Ultra Magnus photos that gives away elements of transformations, including links to hobby magazine scans that showed the entire transformation already.
The one good thing about images though, as opposed to text spoilers, is that once you scroll down to recognise a transformation sequence or a detailed enough image to make it easily known, you can scroll away or close the window instead of looking closely enough at the images to see enough detail to be a spoiler.
But a poll is worthwhile, and will be posted up later in the Intro/Info section.
First of all, thanks for all your hard work!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
Now I'm not sure whether you've just dropped some very interesting news, or if it's already common knowledge that you've been working on multiple projects with HasbroAU. But either way, colour me intrigued ;)
Griffin, just so i'm not misunderstanding, you're suggesting a poll to decide whether images etc of an item showing possible spoilers should have it's own thread?
I always use instructions, especially with the Masterpiece line. Not because I don't think I couldn't figure it out myself, but more so because all it could take is a wrong pull or twist, and you may end up with a broken fig.
Really looking forward to Magnus!
I'm with Delta, I like to work out the transformation by myself. I find it to be a fun and enjoyable exercise and i appreciate the figure more. I've had figures sit on the table for days while I try and figure them out.
It's my own littleOCD^idiosyncrasy to look at instructions before attempting to transform a toy, no matter how complex or simple. I even look at instructions for One Step Changers. :p
Cheers mate. :) I am allowed to say that I am working on stuff for Hasbro, I just cannot say what the specific thing is. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rodent
I usually follow the instructions once and then do it a couple of times on my own to get the hang of it. Didn't work for Rattrap though, he's way too hard (not anymore, but it takes a while). I must handle my TFs a lot rougher than everyone else, because I had no problems transforming Generations Jetfire. Didn't feel at all like I was going to break it.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinnertwin
If there is ever a significant demand for something here that is possible to do and within reason, I will try to do it if I can.
So it is up to the members to decide if that should be a policy here, and like with any democratic vote, whoever ends up in the minority will need to adapt to it.
(logically, the best course of action is one that puts out the least number of people - if posting up instructions irreversibly spoils something for some people, compared to posting instructions as a link or in a new News topic doing no significant damage to anyone, why reject the option that can make everyone happy if we find that it isn't too difficult to implement?)
whats the best way to mark things as spoilers?
SPOILER!!!
STOP LOOKING NOW!!!
NOW!!!
https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545427471206580225
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Look at all that diecast! :eek:
I actually lol'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaiden