Originals.. The pre-TF acquisition and collection thread.

I thought if they don't count as TF's they should at least get their own thread.

If you have pics of your pre-TF's or have acquired a new pre-TF , post it here:)



........ picked up Calibur the other day.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6265.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6266.jpg
Calibur and friends
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6267.jpg
side veiw
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6268.jpg
the rest of the small collection:o
I would love to see more:)

Very cool - you have an amazing collection Geigerrock (not just these, I'm a fan of your Transformers and rocks and robots from other toylines too.) The 1/55 Bonaparte Tulcas is one of my absolute grails. Off the top of my head, I think the only Pre-Transformer I have is a Beet Gugal. I also have some reissued Pre-TFs like Overcharge, and a few 1/55 Valkyries.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3135/p3090278.jpg

(Overcharge, Beet Gugal and a VF-1S Super Valkyrie are in there somewhere.)

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

Whats small yet one of my most favorite things???..............:rolleyes:
you guessed it, my pre tf collection.
I thought if they don't count as TF's they should at least get their own thread.

If you have pics of your pre-TF's or have acquired a new pre-TF , post it here:)



........ picked up Calibur the other day.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6265.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6266.jpg
Calibur and friends
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6267.jpg
side veiw
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_6268.jpg
the rest of the small collection:o
I would love to see more:)

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Love this stuff, very impressive :eek:

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Originally Posted by Sky Shadow

Very cool - you have an amazing collection Geigerrock (not just these, I'm a fan of your Transformers and rocks and robots from other toylines too.) The 1/55 Bonaparte Tulcas is one of my absolute grails. Off the top of my head, I think the only Pre-Transformer I have is a Beet Gugal. I also have some reissued Pre-TFs like Overcharge, and a few 1/55 Valkyries.


(Overcharge, Beet Gugal and a VF-1S Super Valkyrie are in there somewhere.)

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I see them:D you also have a re-issue Calibur if i'm not mistaken.
I need to find a Super Valkyrie myself one day

Bonaparte Tulcas (even though it's not really pre-tf at least not that i know of) was from Italy. Some guy was selling the 3 separately. While the Calibur and Gazzette were going sky-high i was the only bidder on Tulcas.. He has some sun damage but i've never been able to find another in 1/55 scale

Actually there are quite a few little figs in that picture i need. :p

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Originally Posted by theshape

Love this stuff, very impressive :eek:

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cheers. Always keen to see more.:)

Picked this guy up today. Wait till he gets hold of my Slag impostor. (he's gonna dissect him)

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7110.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7111.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7112.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7113.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7115.jpg
I really liked the look of silver Swoop.. thought it was worth a pic. (blue Sludge and silver Snarl too??) I wonder if they were ever released like this.

Nice pickup! That's a really minty example of pre-tf Grimlock.

There is some seriously sweet kit in this thread.

The vacuum metalised preTF dinobots are very interesting, almost a precursor to the G2 whole colour dinobots.

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

I see them:D you also have a re-issue Calibur if i'm not mistaken.

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Is there a site where info is available on reissue pre-tf's. I recently got one of the Beets, and usually if something looks to good to be true, it is. This thing was casefresh. I know they didn't come with a tape seal so it gave me an opportunity to open it up to check everything and all seemed legit to me, but I have limited knowledge on the Takatoku lines.

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Originally Posted by gamblor916

Nice pickup! That's a really minty example of pre-tf Grimlock.

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Originally Posted by UltraMarginal

There is some seriously sweet kit in this thread.

The vacuum metalised preTF dinobots are very interesting, almost a precursor to the G2 whole colour dinobots.

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Cheers guys. The figure is quite good, the box has some wear. I knew it did, but the guy who sent it basicly just wrapped it in bubble wrap, taped it up and sent it on it's way:confused:. I can't help but feel it may have been in a little better condition if he'd gone with a more traditional "put your 30 year old stuff in a box before send it" method.

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Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky

Is there a site where info is available on reissue pre-tf's. I recently got one of the Beets, and usually if something looks to good to be true, it is. This thing was casefresh. I know they didn't come with a tape seal so it gave me an opportunity to open it up to check everything and all seemed legit to me, but I have limited knowledge on the Takatoku lines.

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Not sure. I don't think they were re-issued. From what i've been told (and if i remember correctly) Takatoku went bust and Bandai bought the moulds, which seems to be right with roadbuster/whirl/jetfire. The early ones (same shape, different colour) being stamped Takatoku in japanese and the same TF moulds being stamped bandai. Not sure what the deluxe insecticons are stamped but i would say it's the same.
Maybe they had boxes left over when they went out of business and Bandai didn't put them out?? just a thought. I do see quite a few nice ones (usually beet-gugal and a very occasional beet-gadol) going around (just going off pictures on the net). I'm sure someone has the actual answer

Didn't even know this thread was here... heh working today gives plenty of time to delve into various message boards.

Nice collection so far G-Rock, personally I really like the pre tfs that are different colours to the TFs that we ended up getting as part of the G1 line.

I have a couple of loose ones around but I can't justify the prices really. In 5 or so years when there are absolutly no buyers the scalers will realise they have just driven the prices too high and sell at bargain prices, we have started to see that with pre tf hound/jazz etc already really - Or maybe they will just sit on their stock forever! :D

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Originally Posted by Skullcruncher

I have a couple of loose ones around but I can't justify the prices really. In 5 or so years when there are absolutly no buyers the scalers will realise they have just driven the prices too high and sell at bargain prices, we have started to see that with pre tf hound/jazz etc already really - Or maybe they will just sit on their stock forever! :D

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yeah, i was a bit late to the party with collecting these kind of things:o but i'm into the swing of it now.
but i am noticing some big price gaps on the same item (which is good) i guess some people are out to try and make stupid amounts of profit and some are just happy making their money back.. (or a more reasonable profit)
I mainly like the colour variations (not gonna pay massive money for the sake of a different box) most of these i got at pretty reasonable, over-inflated prices:p in fact i think it was just around what you'd expect to pay for the G1 release in it's box. (sometimes less, looking at pre Roadbuster and Whirl)
If someone wants 4 or 5 or 6 hundred or more for certain ones, they can keep them

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

yeah, i was a bit late to the party with collecting these kind of things:o but i'm into the swing of it now.
but i am noticing some big price gaps on the same item (which is good) i guess some people are out to try and make stupid amounts of profit and some are just happy making their money back.. (or a more reasonable profit)
I mainly like the colour variations (not gonna pay massive money for the sake of a different box) most of these i got at pretty reasonable, over-inflated prices:p in fact i think it was just around what you'd expect to pay for the G1 release in it's box. (sometimes less, looking at pre Roadbuster and Whirl)
If someone wants 4 or 5 or 6 hundred or more for certain ones, they can keep them

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Ha good to see my spelling errors were understandable. I got my sole beetra MIB for $50 this year and whirl mib for the same price last year. I wouldn't mind a roadbuster - I missed one that sold for just under $100 recently and I'm still kicking myself!

I wouldn't mind a silver skids hes quite neat also a red sunstreaker would be a nice addition...

Someone mentioned Pre-TFs? http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif I've got a few...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...cs/Pre-TFs.jpg

Let me know if you want some more detailed pics. There's two more Pre-TF's I'd like to get my hands on - but I don't think I'll ever be able to find a Marlboro Wheeljack or an MC-11 44 Magnum for a good price... :/

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Originally Posted by Skullcruncher

Ha good to see my spelling errors were understandable. I got my sole beetra MIB for $50 this year and whirl mib for the same price last year. I wouldn't mind a roadbuster - I missed one that sold for just under $100 recently and I'm still kicking myself!

I wouldn't mind a silver skids hes quite neat also a red sunstreaker would be a nice addition...

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:eek: That is very cheap for Whirl and RB (bout half of what i paid for mine.:o)
I see Red Sunstreaker pop up fairly often.

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Originally Posted by The_Black_Sheep

Someone mentioned Pre-TFs? http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif I've got a few...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...cs/Pre-TFs.jpg

Let me know if you want some more detailed pics. There's two more Pre-TF's I'd like to get my hands on - but I don't think I'll ever be able to find a Marlboro Wheeljack or an MC-11 44 Magnum for a good price... :/

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Awesome stuff TBS!!!!. who are the 2 little guys under Browning? and Blitzwing's long lost brother has always intrigued me. I've never seen one in real life. All the trains too! .. Yep, this is what i want to concentrate on in 2013.
I've recently bought Shackwave and pre-Blaster but it might be a while before I get them. If you had some close up pics of that triple-changers modes would be great.
(And the 2 small guys under browning:o)

Beet-Gugal and Pre-Slag. hmmmm,, doesn't sound good
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7200.jpg
@Jetfire in the Sky. this one seems in really good condition too, like it's never been out of the box. It was a bit of a nightmare to get it out without damaging the box as the tabs and end-flaps kind of locked into each other..
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7204.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7210.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7212.jpg
thought it was interesting the horns came in their own little box??
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7222.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7223.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7224.jpg Also, there are no markings on the legs like on the tf. It only has the Takara stamp in the chest cavity/cockpit.


Some pics of the paperwork. Thought the artwork might be interesting.
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7219.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7215.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7217.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7220.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7221.jpg
Anyone got any info on this dino/demon looking guy?

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

Awesome stuff TBS!!!!. who are the 2 little guys under Browning? and Blitzwing's long lost brother has always intrigued me. I've never seen one in real life. All the trains too! .. Yep, this is what i want to concentrate on in 2013.
I've recently bought Shackwave and pre-Blaster but it might be a while before I get them. If you had some close up pics of that triple-changers modes would be great.
(And the 2 small guys under browning:o)

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Thanks Mate :). I've taken pics of all of these guys over the years (except for the Trainbots/Raiden because the baggies are still factory-sealed) so whatever you want, just ask.

The Jet-Heli triplechanger - I don't think he has an official name? (sorry about the average pics - I took these a while back)

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...leChangers.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...opper-mode.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/Jet-mode.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/Bot-mode.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n.../Transform.jpg

He's heavier than all the other triplechangers but he's a fair bit shorter.

& the little guys are the two padlock-formers from the Microchange/GiG line. Because their transformations rely on magnets, as you can imagine the magnets weren't designed to last some 28-29 years so therefore they're stuck in their altmodes (I dismantled them & I still couldn't get their transformations working again).

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...tlebuddies.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...whatIvegot.jpg

ahhh, lock-bots.. wouldn't mind getting hold of a couple of them one day.
I see what you mean with the triple changer's height issues, Still, pity he didn't make it into the tf line-up.
ooh , and you've got Anime Astro-train:eek:!

I just freaked myself out looking at differences between pre Grimlock and Slag. Wondering why Grim came with those rubber ball projectiles and Slag didn't (and Grimlock came with no missiles and Slag did) I'm guessing that the missiles were changed out with these rubber bullets when the toys were released through GIG ,, maybe (as GIG Jazz has the same thing but that's about all i can compare it to)

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I just freaked myself out looking at differences between pre Grimlock and Slag. Wondering why Grim came with those rubber ball projectiles and Slag didn't (and Grimlock came with no missiles and Slag did) I'm guessing that the missiles were changed out with these rubber bullets when the toys were released through GIG ,, maybe (as GIG Jazz has the same thing but that's about all i can compare it to)

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No idea but Slag looks awesome, never realised he was so...blue!! Heh thats cool regarding the horns, never knew that either. So he can either be a horny or hornless slag....:D

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

ahhh, lock-bots.. wouldn't mind getting hold of a couple of them one day.
I see what you mean with the triple changer's height issues, Still, pity he didn't make it into the tf line-up.
ooh , and you've got Anime Astro-train:eek:!

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Mate, I've got everything. Everything. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif

I really should get around to posting some pics here of my humble collection - but the last time I took some updated pics was about 6 months ago (so much stuff has arrived since then). I'll do it... one day... http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif

Geiger, you must have one of the most amazing collection of 'Bots dude - If I were to see your collection in-person, I think I'd need to be hooked up to a drip to avoid dehydration after drooling so much! :D:cool:

But seriously, so many awesome Pre-TF era figures from a range of lines; congrats on the hauls man! :eek:

Few more detailed pics of pre-Blaster.
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7383.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7384.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7385.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_7375.jpg

Pre-Blaster is awesome. Nice finds.

Ooh! :eek:

Is that the Pre-Blaster version that has the functioning AM Radio gimmick?

Wow , love the toys in this thread!

Heres my small pre tf gun collection

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psc31b1c48.jpg

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Originally Posted by theshape

Wow , love the toys in this thread!

Heres my small pre tf gun collection

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psc31b1c48.jpg

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You're winning with gunformers:)

above and below look pretty interesting too

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Originally Posted by The_Black_Sheep

Mate, I've got everything. Everything. http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif

I really should get around to posting some pics here of my humble collection - but the last time I took some updated pics was about 6 months ago (so much stuff has arrived since then). I'll do it... one day... http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...Random/LOL.gif

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yep, you should definitely get some pics up:)

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Originally Posted by gamblor916

Pre-Blaster is awesome. Nice finds.

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cheers mate.

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Originally Posted by Hursticon

Ooh! :eek:

Is that the Pre-Blaster version that has the functioning AM Radio gimmick?

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yeah. i haven't tried it yet. hopefully it works:)

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

yeah. i haven't tried it yet. hopefully it works:)

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Oh man! - That's awesome!; I hope it works for you dude, even though it's almost 30 odd years old, there is every chance that it will! :D

this is what i meant by pr(e-r)enforcement:o
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...psc691a988.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...ps79c63c69.jpg love those double changers:p

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3023f0d9.jpg more colour variants/prototypes. (thought it was interesting)

Nice G-Rock, thought I would continue the Red theme - not new but thought I'd share.

Skids and um Skids!

http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/23...a236774348.jpg

Wow nice grock and skull cruncher!

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Originally Posted by Skullcruncher

Nice G-Rock, thought I would continue the Red theme - not new but thought I'd share.

Skids and um Skids!

http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/23...a236774348.jpg

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Nice.... There's still a few days left on that silver Skids/Hoist 2 pack if you needed it:p

those block things are different. do they transform?
i'd love to get a Skids with that small trolley jack thing (I think) he came with

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

Nice.... There's still a few days left on that silver Skids/Hoist 2 pack if you needed it:p

those block things are different. do they transform?
i'd love to get a Skids with that small trolley jack thing (I think) he came with

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lol yeah I'm just waiting for my tatts lotto numbers to come up :D

Yep they do 'transform' but you have to put it together yourself, kind of like a model kit but bigger and more bulky.

I think there is at least 4 in the diaclone line - red/blue skids and yellow/red sunstreaker, theres probably more, I dont know much about diaclone.

And one as part of the Transformer line - the yellow sunstreaker I just happen to have for sale in my sales thread ;)

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Originally Posted by Geigerrock-2

Nice.... There's still a few days left on that silver Skids/Hoist 2 pack if you needed it:p

those block things are different. do they transform?
i'd love to get a Skids with that small trolley jack thing (I think) he came with

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Totally forgot about this awesome thread, I love pre tfs.
Isn't the trolley jack a motorised scooter like a moped?

Another red one sure to impress the ladies :D:D:D

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k157588818

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Originally Posted by Skullcruncher

Another red one sure to impress the ladies :D:D:D

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k157588818

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Hehe.. i'm sure that will go for a bit

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Originally Posted by Jetfire in the sky

Totally forgot about this awesome thread, I love pre tfs.
Isn't the trolley jack a motorised scooter like a moped?

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Yeah, you could be right.

Ahhh its refreshing when you buy an old Transformer but yet looks better than some of the new stuff thats out :D

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/...ps053be678.jpg

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Originally Posted by valkyrie_76

Ahhh its refreshing when you buy an old Transformer but yet looks better than some of the new stuff thats out :D

*snip*

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Oh man! :eek: - You're not wrong Valk, he really does look friggin' sweet! :D
The all black with grey bits & red eyes really set him off, even more so a Decepticon than the original (TF) you're right. :cool: