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Toy Review - Thrust
Series - Generations
Sub-line - none
Size - Deluxe
New/remould/redeco - Remould
Wave - 1
Released here - June 2010
Approximate Retail Price - $25-30
Approximate Size -
Allegiance - Decepticon
Alt-mode - VTOL Jet
Main Features/Gimmicks - none
Main Colours - Maroon, brown
Main Accessories - 2 Missiles and launchers, plus detachable VTOL engines
http://www.toycollectors.com.au/tftoys/gen01.jpg
The vacuum metalised cockpit interior is a very very nice touch.
YES!!
This is one of the reasons I'm glad I didn't get the Henkei exclusive - an affordable G1 Accurate Classics-verse Thrust.
Probably will be the first of the generations figures I will be getting. Still no sign of the '06 Seeker mold going out of fashion :)
This toy is pretty damn good. I haven't opened mine but it does seem comparable to the Botcon toy as far as the paint job is concerned. Certainly better than the Japanese one.
Yes, but still dirty in the Botcon cash grab.
I was going to open my Thrust but have decided against it seeing as I already have the Henkei version open and on display.
By now everyone would be familiar with this timeless mold in one incarnation or another and even now, it still holds great appeal.
The lack of zebra/camo paint apps on the wings and the deletion of random chrome on the Hasbro version are definite positives in my books.
The Henkei version is 3 to 4 times the price, but it's arguably not the better version IMHO.
9 out of 10... definite buy!
hmmm still thinking it thru should I get one, coz Im more likely not to open it since I have the Henkei version.... let other fans enjoy that toy instead of me keeping one that Im not gonna set free... hmmm
BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT :DQuote:
Originally Posted by liegeprime
So what seekers have henkei come out with and will the generations line come out with other seekers? If there's still a chance of collecting all seekers, even if its mixed of henkei/generations, then i'll go out and buy this thrust...
Henkei (*Gentei):Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
+ Starscream
+ Skywarp*
+ Thundercracker*
+ Ramjet
+ Thrust*
+ Dirge*
Classics (*BotCon exclusive):
+ Starscream
+ Skywarp
+ Thundercracker*
+ Ramjet
+ Thrust*
+ Dirge*
+ Acid Storm
Generations:
+ Thrust
Dunno (if I could predict future events then I'd retire and Live A Lotto Life ;)).Quote:
Originally Posted by ITZTRU
I hope that Hasbro will release more Seekers for Generations, _especially_ Dirge and Thundercracker who've never seen mass retail store releases.
Even though I already have Gentei Thrust I intend on getting a Generations Thrust just to encourage Hasbro to give us more Seekers (one can hope).
I think you missed clear Starscream
Love the seekers (repaints, remolds)
Hoping for generations
-Thundercracker
-Dirge
-Sunstorm
-Slipstream (TFA colours)
Yeah, mail away exclusive Ghost Starscream. There's also Universe Starscream which is a pretty neat repaint. I skipped it cos I already have Classics Starscream, but I would've picked it up in a heartbeat if I didn't. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark
Slipstream's a neat idea. :) But I'd really like to see Hasbro prioritise Thundercracker and Dirge first before considering more obscure characters like Sunstorm and Slipstream. These obscure characters should be the exclusives with Thundercracker and Dirge as common store releases, not the other way around IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaRNiV8L PRiME
He looks nifty, though I'm a little biased - Thrust was my Decepticon Plane growing up (before I knew what a "seeker" was).
But one thing: after the better part of 20 releases, how is the mold holding up?
Henkei (*Gentei):
+ Starscream
+ Starscream (Ghost)*
+ Skywarp*
+ Thundercracker*
+ Ramjet
+ Thrust*
+ Dirge*
Classics (*BotCon exclusive):
+ Starscream
+ Skywarp
+ Thundercracker*
+ Ramjet
+ Thrust*
+ Dirge*
Universe 2.0
+ Starscream
+ Acid Storm
Generations:
+ Thrust
HtfD
+ Jetblade
"seeker" is just a fan made term that's made its way into official usage sort of recently. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by snazzbot 101
My Generations Thrust had some paint scraped off and rough-edged plastic in some places. But he's mostly okay.
I've now got all three versions of Thrust and the Botcon one is still my favourite, the black details are much nicer and sharper than the dirty grey and brown on the Henkei and Generations Thrust. Also his face looks much better in black, he just looks more menacing.
I'm a fan of Thrust too, but....
...I also have a Robots in Disguise Ramjet (which basically has most of the same mold as Generations Thrust, apart from the stabilizer packs and wing position) and when comparing the quality of the plastics, Thrust seems to have a more subtle, not-so 'strong' plastic feel to him.
I don't know if anyone else notices this too but my Thrust doesn't fit together as tightly as Ramjet, one example is where the Rear-nose of the plane pegs into the body in Alt. mode (seen looking down on the alt. mode) - both toys have the exact same transformation and parts at this region yet Thrust just feels somewhat weaker. Maybe it's because of the colour tat Thrust is, being a nice, glossy like maroon?
What are your thoughts?
I'm guessing by Robots in Disguise Ramjet you mean Classics Ramjet? (Same mold different wings?)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyWarp91
If that's the case I've got them both sitting here in front me me, and I have to disagree I'm afraid. My Ramjet (purchased in mid 2007) had really loose legs out of the box and the plastic feels a few notches more brittle and coarse than the norm for Hasbro. Thrust I've not got a complaint about really.
No need to be afraid about disagreeing. Maybe our toys are different (like maybe something happened at the factory) because my Ramjet has quite tight legs and feels tougher than my Thrust lol. I did just buy my Ramjet about a month ago from eBay MISB. Nonetheless, Thrust is a great toy that makes my seeker collection almost complete. Now I'm after that cracking in the thunder above ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark
From TFwiki:Quote:
Originally Posted by tinyJazz
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Although the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the wide use of the term "Seeker" is still somewhat mysterious.
The first documented use of the term discovered by the Transformers fandom is from the 1984 J.C. Penney holiday catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook"). On the page which shows the Christmas season's available Transformers, the following entry is found: "Decepticon Silver Plane. Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them. Transforms to an exciting robot with hi-tech weapons and Decepticon logo." A photo of Starscream and Thundercracker is displayed.
Also on the same page in an ad for Soundwave, he's said to "send out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons".
Another early use not discovered by the fandom until much later is from an ad by now defunct discount retail chain Zayre from November 1984, listed as "Decepticon Seeker" among "Autobot mini car", "Autobot car", "Decepticon Communicator" and "Autobot or Decepticon Leader". Depicted are Starscream and either Skywarp or Thundercracker.
These two seemingly unconnected instances back up a long-standing rumor that the term "Seeker" was used in some other early promotional materials, and has been handed down by Hasbro at some point. This would also explain why it's capitalized in both instances. Still, though, as there are only two known primary sources in which the term appears to this day, it seems strange that they could have inspired the entire fandom to use the term. "Seeker" was in wide use among internet Transfans even in the early 1990s, when the fandom was just getting off its feet. Did somebody in the days of the Transformers email list have a memory of the word from when they saw one of these catalogs at age 10 and start the trend? It is probably impossible to know at this point.
It is sometimes erroneously claimed that "Seeker" is derived from a line of dialog in the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which these jets are referred to as "hunter-seekers". This line does not exist.
The term "hunter-seekers" is used in issue 17 of the US comic, "The Smelting Pool!". However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the "Seekers" that we are familiar with. In fact, the Conehead Seekers make their first appearance in this same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their Earth jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely different from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.
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So technically speaking the origin of the term Seeker is from those obscure catalogues, but its usage among fans was probably coincidentally coined by online fans in the early days of the internet. :cool:
I don't think it was coincidental, though - I think it was a case of a handful of fans legitimately using the term, but not remembering exactly where the phrase came from. I still remember the day that catalogue was rediscovered - until then I'd always been against the use of 'Seeker' and instead supported 'Skyraider'. 'Tetrajet' was also popular at the time. (And there was 'non-Blunderscrounge', which was randomly coined in one of my rants and yet it somehow made it into the Transformers FAQ: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~s...s/glossary.php)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
If that is the actual wording of the catalogue, surely it's referencing heat seekers/missiles?
Plural on Seekers doesn't make sense when they're talking about 1 plane!
Capitilisation implies the Seekers have personality though, and the sentence on Soundwave doesn't exactly make my theory sound :confused:
For a long time I also preferred using the term "Sky Raiders" too. It's only been quite recently that I've come to accept "Seekers" for my personal lexicon.
But only _one_ of the Decepticon jets has heat seeking missiles (Skywarp).Quote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
And one Decepticon isn't an Armada! And the story of Transformers Armada isn't focused around a Cybertronian armada! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kurdt_the_goat
Yes, I did notice. I also compared thrust to my ramjet and something about thrust feels more, Im not sure what word to use, brittle? (In comparison)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkyWarp91
Also, I had had to shave down a few parts of the figure (Gunpla people call them nubs) because of excess flak/shavings. It just really bothered me but I think most people won't care.
Could just be mine though but they were really noticable because of the colour scheme. I still like the figure, but wish it had a better finish.
Yeah, brittle is the term I looking for. I was thinking maybe the quality of the plastic is contributed by its colour. What I mean is that maybe Thrust feels more brittle because his maroon-plastic is weaker than the white-plastic on Ramjet. Something to do with plastics and chemistry? It's been so long since I did chemistry back at High School lolQuote:
Originally Posted by King Atlas