The G1 Classicsverse Checklist thread!

[GoktimusPrime]

1989-1993 added. The checklist should now cover all of G1 and G2 (Hasbro). Please LMK if I've missed anything.

[griffin]

Reissues don't count, as they specifically refer to 'updated' figures... as in Classicverse-styled homages (including related lines like Reveal the Shield, and toys that ended up in movie packaging for convenience by Hasbro).

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

...not to mention he's an Autobot... and in a complete different series/continuity. That would be a "stand in" at best, which I'm definitely not including.

Booster x10 is a 'con.
Though still just a stand-in what with being a different character in a different continuity, but Nightbeat was the Autobot repaint.
Sorry to be nitpicky.

[Paulbot]

It still says no against Trypticon and Whirl despite the [/] for their Classics legends figures. Fireflight, Air Raid and Skydive all have repurposed legends figures.

Hun-Grrr and Blades also have [/] legends figures in Universe 2.0 multi-packs. And there was a Voyager Blades too in Universe 2.0.

And you're missing Double Punch from the 1991 list who has a Timelines version.

And Timelines Slice for Slicer should be noted too.

[kup]

It still says no against Trypticon and Whirl despite the [/] for their Classics legends figures. Fireflight, Air Raid and Skydive all have repurposed legends figures.

Hun-Grrr and Blades also have [/] legends figures in Universe 2.0 multi-packs. And there was a Voyager Blades too in Universe 2.0.

And you're missing Double Punch from the 1991 list who has a Timelines version.

And Timelines Slice for Slicer should be noted too.

I agree with Paulbot. Those legends figures were clearly little more than nameslaps on existing molds and were not made to 'be' the G1 characters unlike the dedicated classics molds.

Foe example, the 'Classics' minicons can't exactly be regarded as 'G1'.

[Cat]

Actually, I'm surprised at how difficult a list like this is to do, with everyone able to come to consensus on what 'counts'.

Guess the final word is, you're better off looking for yourself. Look at other people's collections, look at product catalogues, look at releases by year. Don't limit it to line, and decide what works for you, based on what you want.

It's hard to even casually recommend a list like this. It's always going to come down to someone's 'fanon' (for want of a better word) over-riding other's suggestions, in an attempt to make the list look and 'feel' credible.

Enjoy collecting, collect what you want, as who you want.

[kup]

Actually, I'm surprised at how difficult a list like this is to do, with everyone able to come to consensus on what 'counts'.

Guess the final word is, you're better off looking for yourself. Look at other people's collections, look at product catalogues, look at releases by year. Don't limit it to line, and decide what works for you, based on what you want.

It's hard to even casually recommend a list like this. It's always going to come down to someone's 'fanon' (for want of a better word) over-riding other's suggestions, in an attempt to make the list look and 'feel' credible.

Enjoy collecting, collect what you want, as who you want.

True, it is impossible to have a set of rules for this but there is no reason not to have a guideline for anyone interested.

I personally re-purpose a lot of stuff as Classics using personal preference and common sense - Everyone is doing this in one form or another since Hasbro's own official assignations are unclear at best leaving it open for broad interpretation.

[GoktimusPrime]

It still says no against Trypticon and Whirl despite the [/] for their Classics legends figures. Fireflight, Air Raid and Skydive all have repurposed legends figures.

Fixed for all except Air Raid and Skydive -- I've counted their repurposed Legends figure under Generation 2 (1995).

Hun-Grrr and Blades also have [/] legends figures in Universe 2.0 multi-packs. And there was a Voyager Blades too in Universe 2.0.

And you're missing Double Punch from the 1991 list who has a Timelines version.

And Timelines Slice for Slicer should be noted too.

Fix'd.

I agree with Paulbot. Those legends figures were clearly little more than nameslaps on existing molds and were not made to 'be' the G1 characters unlike the dedicated classics molds.

Foe example, the 'Classics' minicons can't exactly be regarded as 'G1'.

Hence the "True" Classicsverse & "Faux" Classicsverse categories -- if people want to get picky and overlook repaints from other toylines that have been repainted and chucked into Classicsverse as opposed to those that have been purpose-designed for Classicsverse, then they should be focusing on the "True" Classicsverse figures marked with [+] (or their repaints marked with [+]).

Anything marked with [/] are "Faux" (false) Classicsverse; i.e. non-Classicsverse moulds that have been repainted and thrown into the Classicsverse line by Hasbro. These toys may be widely considered to be not 'real' Classicsverse toys by many collectors and only really count because of Hasbro marketing, but otherwise don't really feel like they belong in the Classicsverse line.

Actually, I'm surprised at how difficult a list like this is to do, with everyone able to come to consensus on what 'counts'.

Trying to 'count' anything is jolly hard because everyone has a different opinion on what should and shouldn't count. And unlike the Universal Counting Method for toys, I am NOT even going to try to come up with a general consensus for what toys should and shouldn't count for Classicsverse. I've tried to include every character who's ever had a toy incarnation that HasTak have marketed under CHUGGURT as well as those which they haven't but their marketing or history lends some ambiguity that there might be a case to argue for them to count (see TF2010 and ROTF Bludgeon discussion below).

I've tried to point out which ones are toys that are purpose-made for Classicsverse, which ones aren't, which are repaints of what and so forth and people can just decide for themselves which ones they want to count or not.

Guess the final word is, you're better off looking for yourself. Look at other people's collections, look at product catalogues, look at releases by year.

Go to brick and mortar stores and look on shelves. Looking at other people's collections is a good suggestion... try before you buy. Maybe arrange for 'show and tell' at fan meets

It's hard to even casually recommend a list like this. It's always going to come down to someone's 'fanon' (for want of a better word) over-riding other's suggestions, in an attempt to make the list look and 'feel' credible.

I've tried to eliminate fan bias as much as possible - that's why I'm not including arbitrary "stand ins" (i.e. non-Classicsverse toys that people personally decide to repurpose as Classicsverse, e.g. Music Label Soundwave as Classicsverse G1 1984 Soundwave, Movieverse Axor as Classicsverse Axer etc.).

Anything that's listed as having a Classicsverse toy is there because they have a toy which HasTak have explicitly marketed as Classics/Timelines/Henkei/Gentei/Universe/Generations/United/Reveal The Shield or other similar lines that are part of what we call "Classicsverse". There are some which are ambiguous, particularly those from Hasbro's label-less Transformers 2010 line, and others like ROTF Bludgeon who was ultimately a ROTF toy but at one stage was considered by Hasbro to be a Classicsverse toy (thus some fans might argue "prior intent"). And even there I've labelled with with [?] to denote the ambiguous or debatable nature of their classification as Classicsverse.

Any toy with [+] or [+] are definitely Classicsverse. Can't go wrong with those IMO. Okay, I've now redefined the rare figures...
[R] = bloody rare "True" Classicsverse moulds, e.g. United Frumble (original mould made for Classicsverse)
[R] = bloody rare "True" Classicsverse repaints, e.g. Shattered Glass Thundercracker (repaint of Classics Starscream mould)
[r] = bloody rare "Faux" Classicsverse repaints, e.g. Timelines Double Punch (repaint of Energon Scorponok)

[GoktimusPrime]

Just a reminder; there's the G1 & Classicsverse comparison thread which is chock full of photos comparing Classicsverse toys with their original namesakes. Feel free to have a browse and decide for yourselves how well different Classicsverse toys homage their original namesakes.

Also there are still some comparison pics which haven't been done yet... so feel free to contribute if you notice any missing comparison (e.g. Punch/Counterpunch -- I have the G1 toy but I don't have the Timelines toy to take a comparison pic with).

[liegeprime]

Just a reminder; there's the G1 & Classicsverse comparison thread which is chock full of photos comparing Classicsverse toys with their original namesakes. Feel free to have a browse and decide for yourselves how well different Classicsverse toys homage their original namesakes.

Also there are still some comparison pics which haven't been done yet... so feel free to contribute if you notice any missing comparison (e.g. Punch/Counterpunch -- I have the G1 toy but I don't have the Timelines toy to take a comparison pic with).

hmmmm, doesnt kup have that toy? or Im just imagining it, mebbe we could ask him to post some pics there...