Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy View Post
Plus the oversized lametastic cannon and purple arms are blech.
Gimmicks over substance. I much prefer a less gimmicky but better designed toy - which IMO we get with Deluxe Megatron... or even Voyager First Edition Optimus Prime. That toy has no electronic gimmicks, no transparent body parts ('cept for the eyes), no 'automorphing' weapons... it's just a really nice solid Transformer toy (and his gun has more paint apps on it than the entire Voyager Megatron figure! ).

Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy View Post
The light chest thingy seems cool, but would have preferred that one needn't have to attach the gun to his back.
It really doesn't look all that good IRL as it does in my photo. Because the light source is external you have to look at it directly square on from an ideal angle (i.e. the angle where I've photographed it) for it to look perfectly illuminated... otherwise it doesn't look all that good at all. I had to take 3 different shots before getting it at the right angle -- had to use a tripod and everything too.

Nice or not, it's a fairly superfluous gimmick -- budget money that could have been spent on something else... like paints or engineering the shoulder pads better so they're not in the freakin' way.

Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy View Post
I was excited about the Prime toys when the show came out, especially considering how cool transformers had been designed (well up until DOTM) but after seeing the awesome FE ones and then seeing the bland normal line, I am very much less enthused about them.
Soundwave is alright and I've heard good things about Wheeljack. Does anyone have Cliffjumper?

Seems that as far as the normal line's concerned, the cheaper Deluxes may be better than the dearer Voyagers (although the lack of faction symbols on them bugs me!)

Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy View Post
I understand them being too complex for kids, but they are just beginning to look a bit too rubbishy for my liking.
You can have relatively simple but good looking quality toys - look at Classicsverse or Transformers Cybertron/Galaxy Force etc.

Quote Originally Posted by Tetsuwan Convoy View Post
I see this as a step back for the brand
TFP-RiD Voyager Optimus Prime absolutely looks like a step backwards from FE Voyager Optimus Prime. Yesterday I had my TakTOM FE VOY OP with me at the Parra Meet, and we were comparing it with TFP RiD Voy OP at TRU and quite a few guys were commenting on how the RiD version looked so much crappier than the FE one.

Is Voyager Megatron a step 'backward' from Deluxe Megatron? That's debatable... but IMO it's certainly not a substantial step forward either. Voyager Megatron is nicer than DLX Megatron in some aspects, but worse in others... so in the end, it's kinda like taking a step forward then taking a step backward and ending up in the same place. Only ya know, for triple the price! (or nearly double the price in terms of relative AU RRP terms)