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Err, the classics/universe 2.0/generations/henkei/botcon seekers are all the same mould. The only differences between any of them are the wings, heads (cone or not) and colours.
These aren't my images, but here is proof.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are.
Henkei Thundercracker
Classics Starscream
Classics Skywarp
Universe Acid Storm
Classics Ramjet
Henkei Thrust
Henkei Dirge
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Thanks dude, didn't notice. I like the universe paint job for starscream better since its more accurate but then that looks weird since skywarp also has a different wing paint job. so should I get the conies of the seekers? FYi, I'm getting either classics/universe/generations. Acid storm looks alright but there's no other RMs so ill wait and see. Which pair do you think? I might actually get screamer and dirge- just to mix it up.Originally Posted by KillinSpoon
Err, the classics/universe 2.0/generations/henkei/botcon seekers are all the same mould. The only differences between any of them are the wings, heads (cone or not) and colours.
These aren't my images, but here is proof.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are.
Henkei Thundercracker
Classics Starscream
Classics Skywarp
Universe Acid Storm
Classics Ramjet
Henkei Thrust
Henkei Dirge
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I take it Generations Thundercracker didn't pegwarm in Melbourne Kmarts like it did in Sydney (and was sold for $23-25). Still... $30 is a fair price for a Deluxe.
The toys that you've referred to as "Henkei" are from a special line called 'Gentei! Gentei!', which is the Japanese word for "limited" -- and that's precisely what they are, limited exclusives, and expensive. "Henkei" is used to refer to the common regular store release toys (like Starscream and Ramjet).
Also, Gentei Thundercracker and Skywarp have mould degradation issues. Classics, Universe, Henkei and Generations were regular store releases, so should be easier to find.
Here are some photos of my Classicsverse Seekers:
I have:
Classics Starscream
Gentei Thundercracker
Gentei Skywarp
Generations Dirge
Classics Ramjet
Gentei Thrust
I paid $25-30 for each Classics/Generations Seeker, and $50 for each Gentei. So I paid $200-210 for the set (over 5 years)
Last edited by GoktimusPrime; 21st June 2012 at 03:57 PM.
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Edited post now that the one I was replying to was edited - it wasn't meant to humiliate anyone... it just needs to be known that you should refrain from editing people's quotes, unless you are doing something in jest (to someone you know will be okay with it), or are removing something prohibited.
Editing someone's quoted text is disrespectful, as it would be like editing their actual post to change what they were on the record as saying.
The recommended course of action would be to quote a person, and then in your own words, "correct them" if it needs correcting, or they ask for it.
As for the Gentei/Henkei issue, the most accepted listings like tfwiki, tfw2005, tfu.info and Soundwave's Oblivion all have Gentei as "limited edition Henkei". So it isn't wrong to be grouping them together as "Henkei" if they never released "regular versions" of any of them.
The packaging style is the same, and as I should have pointed out in my original posting, where it has the Toy-Number on the packaging, it is surrounded by 2xHenkei on both regular toys, and the Gentei/Limited toys.
It's like people referring to Generations/Universe/Classics as Classics or Classicverse, everyone else knows what is being referred to, because it is convenient. A fan-designated term that is widely accepted, isn't wrong just because Hasbro or TT haven't officially used it.
If someone uses a term that isn't fan-designated/accepted, or isn't from an official source, then feel free to enlighten them/us.
Last edited by griffin; 22nd June 2012 at 01:22 PM.
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