^totally agree. I don't even collect third party stuff, so from my POV, looking at it purely from Hasbro's own standards, these toys fall short.

In hindsight I wish that I'd held out for the G2 set -- the limb-bots look nicer (not sure about Onslaught, his G2 colours have always sucked), nice box and works out cheaper than collecting the regular versions individually... but that ship has sailed for me, and I'm not about to buy ANOTHER version of what I consider to be a really ordinary set of toys, no matter how nice the colours are.