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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev View Post
    A tip for the future that I used. I had friends getting their Masterpiece Megatron's from Japan (the ones without the orange caps on the end of their barrels - that seems to be the issue. Like in America all replica guns need to have an orange cap on the barrel so that cops don't think kids have a real gun and shoot them by mistake) confiscated under the 'replica firearms' law. So when I got mine imported I had the sender Transform him into robot mode, and then send the instruction booklet and box separately. That way unless the immigration guy was a Transformers aficionado he wouldn't know the purpose of the toy robot. Worked a treat!
    Quote Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime View Post
    That old trick isn't as reliable as it used to be, because in 2007 Australian Customs worked out how to identify Megatron in robot mode (because that's how MP Megatron is packaged). Any Gunformers that may have slipped past Customs in robot mode since then may have been more due to luck I'd say.

    A simple solution - G1 Megs could be held to be the approximate size of a small Barbie doll (perhaps shorter and fatter) - next time get him in robot mode, bung a dress on him, blue-tack some blond hair on his bonce and chuck him in an old Barbie box. Shove a fake sticker on the front saying 'Barbie/Transformers Crossover' and away ya go! Unless the customs guy wants to check under his dress to look at the size of his barrel it should all be golden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonac View Post
    6 offences in 19 years. Yep, a real threat to our safety.
    How many people were slashed with a knife? or a glass bottle?
    Yet those actual weapons are legal.
    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    It's unfortunate that people have used that in the past as an excuse to claim that replica weapons shouldn't be restricted or prohibited... without understanding how replica weapons are still able to achieve the same result of a real weapon in burglaries and muggings. (as a trained criminologist, I know that you need to be mindful of the mentality of an offender, to realise that a perceived threat can be just as effective as a legitimate threat)
    Despite people not using them to kill or wound, the robberies they make possible leave people traumatised and often out-of-pocket of whatever was stolen. The ability to commit a serious offence, with or without violence, makes owning a replica weapon (toy or not) a big responsibility.

    How would people here feel, if their Gen1 Megatron was stolen and you found out it was used to rob someone. What if that person died of a heart attack from the fright, or they were on a tight budget and couldn't afford to have money or possessions taken off them.
    We may laugh at the thought of a Gen1 Megatron fooling anyone (in a well lit collection room), but when you are looking down the barrel of something that looks like a gun, in the dark, you don't ask if it is a real weapon or if it is loaded.
    A replica weapon is the same as an unloaded real weapon - they still achieve the same result in a burglary/mugging as a loaded real weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
    Doesn't matter. My wife works with someone that used to be a bank teller. The bank was robbed one day, they held a gun to her head, actually put the gun against her head! And demanded the money from the desk. While they were doing this, they were taunting her, calling her fat and saying that they'd be doing the world a favor if they shot her. These people were never caught.

    After the police reviewed the footage they said that the gun put to her head was probably a replica. Do you think that matters to her? The trauma that she went through and nightmares and therapy sessions (which she still attends, a good 17 years after the event) should just magically have vanished with the realization that it was probably a replica?? Do you think I should tell her to get over it so you can get a Megatron toy a bit easier?

    No. We have these laws for a reason. Yes, that reason is the f$&@%d up minority that ruin it for people like us. But to say that because it won't kill or wound anyone, therefore should be legal, is a rather narrow minded and selfish view.
    This type of legislation is very frustrating for legit collectors, of toys or actual replica firearms. it's unfortunate that there are so many more gun related incidents occurring in recent months than I recall in the past.
    The sad fact is that people importing illegal firearms aren't going to try doing it through legitimate channels like a collector would. and like mentioned above, they are more difficult to catch as a result.

    This of course, makes the control of firearms replicas even more important given the increase of gun related Crime. As a replica becomes even more believable at a glance as a real gun if there are more actual shootings occurring.
    My frustration is how toy guns are still available for sale in toy shops, especially cheap $2 stores. This negates any effectivity of stopping individual imports of "replica" firearms.

    I hope you can work things out with your G1 Megs Oilspill, fortunately you live in WA so you probably have the least amount of red tape to sort through.
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    Somehow I managed to get a G1 Megs posted to me from China.
    It was part of the DOTM Transformers Chronicles box set that also had a DOTM Megatron and packaged the G1 Megs in robot mode - maybe both of those factors helped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTransformerTrev View Post
    A simple solution - G1 Megs could be held to be the approximate size of a small Barbie doll (perhaps shorter and fatter) - next time get him in robot mode, bung a dress on him, blue-tack some blond hair on his bonce and chuck him in an old Barbie box. Shove a fake sticker on the front saying 'Barbie/Transformers Crossover' and away ya go! Unless the customs guy wants to check under his dress to look at the size of his barrel it should all be golden
    99% of guys have looked up a Barbie's skirt. 1% of blokes are liars.

    Quote Originally Posted by snaketales View Post
    Somehow I managed to get a G1 Megs posted to me from China.
    It was part of the DOTM Transformers Chronicles box set that also had a DOTM Megatron and packaged the G1 Megs in robot mode - maybe both of those factors helped?
    I'd say you got lucky, considering that Customs have known how to spot Megatron in robot mode since 2007. I personally wouldn't recommend using the old "send it in robot mode" method anymore. Best bet (for those of us living outside WA and SA) is either to acquire a permit, or if you live in a state where the toy is still illegal, contact your state's Police Ministry.

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    What about the other 1% of blokes?
    If 1% are liars, then that makes them part of the 99%, since they still have regardless.

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    When MP Megs was first released I just went in and filled out the Replica Firearm documentation in a branch in Perth as that's where you'll need to go. The police were very helpful when I was there

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    The firearms division of the WA police emailed me the form, and I've just filled out the permit request and sent it in online.

    Fingers crossed it gets approved.

    I read something about a cooling off period of about 30 days from the time the application is submitted, hopefully that only applies to importing an actual firearm - not an imitation.

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    I hope you get your Megs mate, if you have gone through the correct processes even after it getting held at Customs I'm sure you will.

    This thread has built up some good and passionate discussion, for those in the know I was just wondering where does the legislation stand on business type sellers such as Transfigurez selling Megs on Aus e-bay, I'm guessing they have the appropriate permits to import in bulk quantities but should not the law state that they can only sell to other's with the appropriate permit (if any) in the buyers state? The same with working firearms.

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Transform...item1c2eb41655

    Surely a big e-bay seller like this is a registered business with an ABN etc. please correct me if I'm wrong and perhaps we have members on here who know or are part of Transfigurez.

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    They would be legally allowed to sell it in SA and WA without any problem I imagine. I guess they could sell it in NSW and VIC provided that the buyer has a permit... but then I have NO idea if sellers have any legal obligation to view the buyer's permit before sale (like how a legal gun owner would have to produce his/her licence when purchasing firearms and ammunition). AFAIK they shouldn't be selling it to residents in states/territories where the toys are outright illegal though.

    I have no idea how law abiding these businesses are... but if they choose to ignore the law, then they risk legal action taken against them if they get caught.

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    I always thought G1 Megs was fine, just MP-05 was the problem. Guess I'm wrong...



    What about Megatron's MISB Megs?

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