Ironman 3 discussion SPOILERS

[M-bot]

Saw it last night, enjoyed it. I agree that it would've been nicer to see Tony Stark in armour more, but I can understand that the writers wanted to increase the plot complication for Tony by removing the armour from him and letting him be the hero without his powers. So that was an interesting angle.

The kid in the garage was also an interesting concept -- the idea of another potential Tony Stark in the making (i.e. child prodigy), only that he lives in a fairly mundane setting raised by a single mum, whereas Tony was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and had all the best opportunities in life handed to him. So it was pretty sweet to see Tony kinda passing on the torch at the end when he pimped out that kid's shed.

The one thing that kinda bugged me was the surgery to remove the palladium shrapnel at the end... why didn't he get that done before?!? I thought the whole reason why he had the miniature arc generator in his chest was because the shrapnel was too close to his heart or whatever to remove. He was imprisoned with a doctor... and say even if that doctor lacked the resources to surgically remove it, why didn't he then have the procedure done when he returned to the United States? Especially in Iron Man 2 when the poison was spreading... weird.

Unless the procedure to remove it was only recently developed... but I don't recall the movie explaining that to the audience.

I'm wondering if that was a deliberate choice by the film makers: Stark is always looking forward, looking forward to the next development, the next invention. In IM2 he was so caught up with his suits, etc (which he needed the arc reactor to power) that he didn't really think that removing the arc reactor and the shrapnel was a way of ridding himself of the palladium poisoning, he was too caught up with "being Iron Man" (as he admitted at the end of the first film). Wasn't there a line of dialogue in one of the first two films where he said something like "there is only this, there is only the next mission"? I thought that perhaps the events of IM3 (and his time relying on himself and his smarts rather than the power of the suits) caused him to re-evaluate his life and priorities a little bit.

It may be a little flimsy, but it's a theory.

I was a little more bothered by the shrapnel being removed in IM3 not looking at all like the tiny barbs that Yensen showed him in the first film - a barb like that would be more likely to be an issue to remove (and kinda fits the "inching towards his heart thing"), rather than the shard type thing that was actually removed. But that's probably being a bit finicky - I'm not certain any explanation for the metal thing in his chest stands up to any measure of medical or scientific scrutiny. I'm happy to suspend my disbelief.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I saw it today and it was ok. Not as good as 1, better than 2 but still an average movie. The 3d didn't really seem needed to me. I doubt the bit at the end relates to the next movie (there don't appear to be any Hulk movies soon), just a way of bringing the narration that is at the start of the film to a close. So Tony is actually telling a story as opposed to living the movie (in other words the whole movie is a flashback, aside from the after credits bit).

I liked the Mandarin twist and thought they covered that very well. the end, despite all it's explosions was a bit 'meh' for me. Maybe I am getting cynical of massive fights at the end of movies now.


Still I enjoyed it. Wouldn't bother watching it again at the cinema, but will happily catch it on telly.

Seeing the Avengers has changed the way I thought about Ironman. After all America was getting attacked by a psycho dude, where was Captain America or any of the other Avengers? Or even Shield for that matter?

In IM2 he was so caught up with his suits, etc (which he needed the arc reactor to power)

Now, I always thought that, but after his house is blown up, he then spends the next howeverlong trying to charge the suit, even plugging it into a car battery on the boat. So it would seem that the reactor in his chest doesn't serve any purpose aside from keeping that shrapnel at bay.

[griffin]

Maybe the writer for IM3 forgot that the ARC reactor is what powers the suits... or forgot to explain why this new generation of suits couldn't be (even if they ran out of power, they should still be able to work from his power source).

I remember that the whole ending (plot device) of the first movie was centered around his older ARC reactor draining, to only give him a limited amount of time in the suit. If the suit had its own power supply, the first movie ending made no sense. And you'd think that with "advancements in technology" the 3rd movie suits would still be able to use his power-source in addition to its own. (but then, we wouldn't have a significant plot-device in the 3rd movie)


As for the comments about Tony being out of his suit too much this time, this movie would have cost the film company a lot more for RD jr, so they had to get as much screen-time of his face as possible, to make the most of their investment. They don't need RD jr on set to film the suit, making him an expensive element if his face is only on-screen for 20 minutes of the film.

[The_Black_Sheep]

Cheapskate tuesday was all the motivation I needed to finally watch this movie.. heh

As a fan of pretty much all comic book films, I'd say it was a pretty good stand-alone movie. There seemed to be a hell of a lot of CGI (I'm not saying that was a bad thing but it seemed as though there was CGI in just about every scene).

Of course the major plot turn in this movie was the thing that's left a taste in my mouth. I don't know if they really thought the Mandarin/Killian thing through but if I was writing this movie, it sure isn't what I would have done. If you're gonna have The Mandarin in an Iron Man movie, you've gotta go all out (the evil, dark persona - & especially the rings).

Then there was the kid - Like was that kid really necessary? Really? Or were they just trying to appease the kids' market? I don't know...

& during the first half of the movie, Stark is battling his demons. How many times did he have a drink in his hand? One? It couldn't have been much more than that. Appealing to the kids' market again I see...

Overall, I'd give it 3 1/2 out of 5. I would have done a few things differently... but.. oh well...

[i_amtrunks]

Finally saw IM3 tonight and I came out feeling very meh.

I find it hard to enjoy anything with Paltrow in it to begin with, but I wonder if it was in her contract to appear in the sports bra for so much of the film to try and make sales of her diet merchandise.

The movie was mostly pretty good. How Killian survived all the previous explosions yet died from the last one was hard to swallow (sure he was regenerating, but he was regenerating in others as well.) I thought that Kingsley was perfect, Guy Pierce was both charming and evil, Downey Jnr his best. cheaply did well with his very limited time too.

I liked the Madarin twist, I get how IM fans feel ticked off, but it was a great twist. There were a few silly plot holes, Killian was too good a fighter (as in moves, not power/muscle twitch) for someone who was almost a hunchback only a decade ago.

The thing I hated was the suit destruction. Sure Stark wanted to show he was moving on, but without the suits, he cannot dream to compete against anyone, protect his loved ones etc. sure he has a great brain, but with nothing to protect it, he is dead. Plus we all know it is all malarkey as he will be back in a suit very soon for Avengers 2. Making all his grand show ponying for Pepper a charade.

It was better than IM2, but I didn't feel great after it finished, the cold close was boring, after a slow starting film with few great action sequences, the suit destruction rung false and I don't want to go see it again at the cinema, or even wait for it on DVD. I may get it once it goes on sale in a year or so.

[Yukitora]

if he blew up the shitty crap suits then i could understand, but not the high advanced stuff. and aparently perpper gets a suit somewhere down the line anyway. don't like her much.

[Jetfire in the sky]

Out on Blu Ray shortly, can't wait. I missed out seeing it at the movies due to arrival of bub.

[Cat]

I'm only buying it for completeness.

It's going to be a loooong time before I can make myself sit through that again.

[Jetfire in the sky]

I'm only buying it for completeness.

It's going to be a loooong time before I can make myself sit through that again.

Ouch! I'm going into it without any expectations.

[1orion2many]

I didn't think it was a bad film, Better than DOTM but that's not saying much. I was bitterly disappointed with the Mandarin which I'm sure you'll be able to work out the reasons for this once you watch the film.