TF4 "Then & Now" sets coming to ToysRUs

[Paulbot]

If it was REALLY a g1 Grimlock at that price point, it would have sold like hotcakes. I dares ya not to buy it then!

Realistically, it was never going to be a reissue Grimlock. TakTomy haven't reissued it in Encore, so I'd think chances are abysmally low. For that matter, no new molds in Encore have been released for some time... Hope its not dead

I'm not giving up hope on an Encore Dinobot or two from TakTomy, but never had any belief that Hasbro would sell them. Off the top of my head the only toy Hasbro has released after an Encore reissue was Soundwave (with some of the tapes).

I thought that the "Then" would be Classics or maybe FOC Grimlock? I never considered Energon Grimlock.

It's a nice image of G1 Grimlock's beast mode on the box though.

[Sky Shadow]

I'm not giving up hope on an Encore Dinobot or two from TakTomy, but never had any belief that Hasbro would sell them. Off the top of my head the only toy Hasbro has released after an Encore reissue was Soundwave (with some of the tapes).

Pinkimus Prime, Eject, Ramhorn and Steeljaw were post-Encore, but yes - considering G1 reissues are generally shelfwarmers in the US, Hasbro isn't likely to be big on pursuing them. The Seacon and Predacon reissues are shelfwarming the internet as we speak.

[griffin]

Yeah, the years quoted is just for the Retailers and General Consumer's benefits... not ours. They did the same thing with the Optimus 2-pack a few years back, using the Classics mould from 2006 and listed it as the "1984 Optimus".

This is one of those packs that should be bought for display, rather than play... and even though they should have gone with the Classics Grimlock, the artwork and box set-up make it look nice. It's just a pity that they aren't both in Dino mode. (and movie grimlock is completely covered by his box art - leaving the empty parts of the box being completely exposed)

Now if the two separate price points that Sinnertwin found at ToysRUs stays true, it is funny seeing the guesses of the other sets on the American fansites, who assume that all five will be at this size/price-point.

It reminded me that the third movie had redeco Dinobot Minicons... which I'm now thinking could be the "then" for Slug and Strafe, and packed with a Legions or CMDR size TF4 Dinobot toy, for the $25 price point.

[BigTransformerTrev]

Saying that "most if not all of the Beast Wars Basics" are lost, is a ridiculous and blatantly incorrect generalisation for the TFWiki to make. Three BW Basic moulds are broken. The twenty-plus others are - as far as we know - perfectly fine.

^ Plus the fact that the Dinobot moulds have been lost rules out a G1 reissue.

I've never understood why they can't just examine the original toy and then build a new mold that would replicate it. It's like Megatron building all these doomsday weapons from the G1 cartoon. If the Autobots blow it up - just build another one!

These molds were created - surely they can be recreated can't they?

[DELTAprime]

I've never understood why they can't just examine the original toy and then build a new mold that would replicate it. It's like Megatron building all these doomsday weapons from the G1 cartoon. If the Autobots blow it up - just build another one!

These molds were created - surely they can be recreated can't they?

The problem is the expense. For a small run of reissues it's probably not worth recreating the moulds. According to toy makers moulds are expensive to mill. I'm a little skeptical of the expense of milling.

[BigTransformerTrev]

The problem is the expense. For a small run of reissues it's probably not worth recreating the moulds. According to toy makers moulds are expensive to mill. I'm a little skeptical of the expense of milling.

Ah, fair enough

[Bidoofdude]

Sucks it's not G1 Grim, hope at least Slag's G1 mould will be used for his.

[Sky Shadow]

Sucks it's not G1 Grim, hope at least Slag's G1 mould will be used for his.

We can 100% guarantee that it won't be G1 Slag in a $24.99AU two-pack.

[Paulbot]

Employee 1: "We're out of G1 Slags but we've got lots of Universe Backstops"

Employee 2: "Eh, close enough"

[kup]

The problem is the expense. For a small run of reissues it's probably not worth recreating the moulds. According to toy makers moulds are expensive to mill. I'm a little skeptical of the expense of milling.

I am not convinced of this since the KOers can do it so easily at acceptable (matching with current reissues) levels of quality.

I say they just couldn't be assed. Yeah it cost money to recreate the mold but regardless of the cost amount, they probably just won't do it because there is a cost.

I am sure the people who made 'Bommander' Grimlock have less monetary resources to recreate a mold than Hasbro.