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    Quote Originally Posted by Pulse
    Yeah but I can't stand the "Olympic Versions" of those sports...
    Why?

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    Freestyle & Greco-Roman wrestling? Puh-leese... No wonder Kurt Angle gave it up first opportunity he had...
    Because?

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    Amateur boxing? WTF!? I know boxing these days is fixed as but I'd still much rather watch Lennox Lewis & Holyfield slug it out one more time rather than watching Felix Savon knock out some wannabe...
    You're not backing up any of these statements with rational reasons. I don't follow fighting sports so none of these names mean anything to me. Is it simply because you find non-Olympic boxing to be more brutal? IMO non-Olympic boxing is a bloodsport. Many medical associations have continued to criticise the sport because of its so-called brutality... a level of brutality that I don't think would be acceptable to the Olympic ideal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pulse
    (I wonder why Savon never turned pro? If you were a boxer, Would you rather be an Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion or an Olympic Gold Medallist? Which title has more acclaim in the boxing world... It wouldn't be that hard to figure it out... )
    That entirely depends on the nature of the boxer.

    I personally have no interest in Olympic Judo or Taekwondo - or any martial arts that is involved in competition, and that includes MMA. To me they're not really martial arts in the traditional combative sense, they're sports. But that's just my personal opinion because when it comes to martial arts I'm more of a traditionalist - I'm more interested in fight applications and self-defence instead of entertainment or competition (i.e.: I'm more interested in the art rather than the sport). But that's me.

    I wouldn't say that modern sports martial arts like Taekwondo, K-1 and MMA have no acclaim in the martial arts world - that would be bollocks. If anything, modern martial arts have more acclaim amongst martial artists these days than traditional martial arts. Look at the coloured belt ranking system - that's something that came from modern sports martial arts (originated from Judo). The vast majority of martial art schools use it - so much so that some people actually think that it's traditional!! Haw! Do you think your average Okinawan fisherman would waste his money purchasing karate uniforms, coloured belts and grading fees?? Gradings?! That would've been utterly unheard of in your typical Okinawan fishing village! Most folks just trained in their regular clothes (or a lot less on a hot stinking day in tropical Okinawa).

    "Belt mean no need rope hold up pants." - Mr. Miyagi (The Karate Kid)

    Having said that, there are isolated fighting skills/techniques that you can analyse from watching fighting sports and on a rare occasion you do get individuals who manage to become exceptionally good fighters despite the fact that they're trained in a sport rather than a fighting style. Mohammed Ali is a classic example of this; he came to understand the fighting principles of Yin Yang (or as he put it, "float like a butterfly sting like a bee"; i.e.: that one must be soft and hard in a cyclical flow) - a concept that I find a lot of fighters struggle with.

    P.S.: It may be more appropriate to continue any more in-depth discussions about martial arts in this thread.
    Last edited by GoktimusPrime; 10th August 2008 at 12:42 PM.

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