Combiner Wars wave 1 toys official images

[Verno]

Hasbro have come a long way in designing TFs, but are yet to make a jet with a neat undercarriage? Can't they take a leaf out of the Masterpiece Seeker design?

[Trent]

So, people are 'ok' with paying $50 for a seemingly simplistic toy, just because he combines?

Well yes. He's always been like that and it's simply the flaw of his alt-mode. Look at RotF Jetfire, he had the same problems.

Not everyone's ok with it. While I understand the price restrictions that the final product had to no doubt comply to, I don't these are worth the money. The alt and combined modes look like arse.

Hasbro have come a long way in designing TFs, but are yet to make a jet with a neat undercarriage? Can't they take a leaf out of the Masterpiece Seeker design?

F-15 is easy to do, it's a box with wings. Other planes are different.

[FruitBuyer]

Hasbro have come a long way in designing TFs, but are yet to make a jet with a neat undercarriage? Can't they take a leaf out of the Masterpiece Seeker design?

If you want to pay over $100 for a voyager that you will almost never display by himself, go petition to Hasbro for it.

[Bidoofdude]

Superion looks superb. Really beautiful.

[Sky Shadow]

Wow - the production piece looks so much better than the prototype or promotional images. Now I'm off to buy one...

[griffin]

The current Hasbro strategy with Transformers changed last year to make the toys simpler and easier to transform, and therefore more playable by their target demographic.
Complexity was something that they recognised was giving them bad feedback and sales from parents, who's kids want the main size-classes (voyager and smaller) to be quick to play between the modes (with their friends or by themselves), leaving the larger sizes or collector figures to be the challenge toys.
Remember, the last two years of Hasbro presentations (like SDCC, BotCon and the quarterly investor reports) have stressed their dedicated divergent strategy of targeting three groups of demographics - young kids, pre-teen kids, and collectors.
Generations toys were for both Collectors and pre-teen kids, so it has to compromise to accommodate both as much as possible, without putting off the bigger of two customer groups (the younger ones).
The masterpiece and leader toys are the ones aimed at just collectors, so are the ones for us to demand higher standards, complexity and more realistic engineering. That leaves the smaller size toys to be "best they can get to being realistic" without putting off their main meal ticket of the younger kids and parents who buy most of their products.
When collectors become their largest customer base, then they'll dedicate the toyline's products to us instead of kids... similar to the purpose of Hasbro HK exclusives, FunPub characters and Matty Collector's MOTUC.

Realistically, when you know the factors involved in generating the most complex action figure toys on the market, for the budgets the toy designers are given, and the change in corporate direction from the one that wasn't selling enough product to their target demographic (creating significant shelfwarming), this is probably the best compromise at the moment, as they could just ignore collectors completely and just produce gimmick toys for the kiddies. They'd sell more of the high-profit, simple toys, and not have to listen to adult collectors who expect to be their primary focus.
I agree it'd be nice, but it would be delusional for me to think that they should spend more time and money making less toys (and less money) to have "perfect" toys, when these still look pretty good from at least one angle or mode for their intended purpose (being a triple-changer, because they have to combine).
Combiners and triple-changers are always more work, because more parts and joints need to be included that one or two modes don't use.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Was intedning to skip Superion, but that looks pretty cool!

I hope BlackJack is meant to be Micromaster Blackjack.

Dayum. Looking good. My wallet is weeping.

[rodent]

Well said, griffin

It's the unfortunate reality of the situation and I reckon we've got it pretty good with the 'collector' classes of TF's. The local pricing of those releases, on the other hand, is a matter for another debate!

[Lord_Zed]

All things considered they look a pretty good effort for Hasbro's current Generations line. I'm tempted by one or two, but not a full set strangely.

Hasbro have come a long way in designing TFs, but are yet to make a jet with a neat undercarriage? Can't they take a leaf out of the Masterpiece Seeker design?

Some of the old extended Bayverse movie jets had pretty minimal undercarriages, but that was at the heights of deluxe TF design and complexity.

[kaiden]

just saw the pics of prime combined with various limbs... and it is hideous.

my first thought was 'HIIIISSSSS KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!'

It looks like Prime is awkwardly standing on top of 2 other guys especially when you see the back view

im just gonna stay away from these.