The Universal Counting Method

[GoktimusPrime]

I object to combiner class devestator (ROTF) being removed from the UCM.
As I see it Devestator while lacking individual modes does transform from multiple vehicles into a robot. While lacking the amount of vehicles needed to make him movie accurate as a toy he does reflect what the movie portrayed: one singular personality.

Nobody's suggesting that Combiner Class Devastator be completely discounted from the UCM - but whether or not he should count as 1 Transformer or 6. Under existing rules for counting gestalts, only the component robots count individually but the gestalt robot doesn't. So for example, original G1 Devastator counts as 6 Transformers - but not 7 (cos some people would count Devastator as the 7th Constructicon). But Combiner Class Devastator has created some controversy because the individual Constructicons don't have robot modes.

[quote=LordCyrusOmega]As for the rest, when i count my collection for personal track i tend to count any that have their own individual personality or bio ie i also include targetmasters etc as they have their own bio in western release.

It's more i don't like some being classed and not others. Though i can see everyone has a different point of view on this as some will class rpm's and i don't but i do class 3" titanium and targetmasters etc

Pretty much. There isn't any one method of counting that everyone will agree to. But at least the UCM was created (and maintained) via a democratic process and represents the majority consensus. Even I don't agree with all the UCM articles... but I abide by the majority will of voters.

It's not that i like comparing my collection to others. i just like to know how many i have.

Same here. I first started making a list of my Transformers in 1985 on my family's Commodore 64. I made on a word processor program and it was a pretty simple list - only 3 columns; Name, Allegiance, Function. That was it! And when I printed it out on our dot matrix printer the entire list fitted on one page! And like you said, it was never about comparing or competing with others... I just wanted to know.