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24th December 2015, 05:31 PM
#11
I saw it today, in 2D... as I would see it again in 3D if I thought it was worth it.
I didn't allow myself to get hyped up in the last few months leading up to the release, and I was still left disappointed.
The first act was the slowest of the 7 movies, with very little action happening. The opening scene(s) should be intense or foreboding.
Ep4 had the blockade runner attacked.
Ep5 had a slow start but had the Hoth battle within half an hour.
Ep6 started with the reveal of the new Death Star and Emperor.
Ep1 had a slow start but was exciting to see fully fledged Jedi in action within minutes and then a full invasion force landing on the planet.
Ep2 started by showing us our first significant look at Corescant, which was pretty amazing visually.
Ep3 started with a massive space battle above Corescant. (I'm guessing the spelling)
Ep7 starts with a quick slaughter of a small encampment, and then about an hour with Finn and Rey. It took us until about half way into the movie before we even saw the Rebellion/Resistance... which is similar to Ep4, but that one at least had a significant battle at the start to give a good first impression and stick through an hour on Tatooine.
I think if you took out the Ep4-6 characters from the Ep7 story, it would have been panned more than the Ep1 for its Gungans. I actually wanted to see Ep1-3 again at the theatres, but not this one... I am willing to wait until it comes out on DVD before I will want to see it again. Seeing Han, Chewie, the Falcon, Leia and C3PO were the highlights in an otherwise slow moving story that only has me wanting to see the next two movies for their involvement as well as Luke, who is likely to be taking on the role of OB1 of Ep4 - a supportive role that isn't very active until he is about to die.
Knowing that Mark Hamill (Luke) was in the Movie somewhere (from the pre-production publicity and being at the premiere screening) it was in the back of my mind for much of the second half of the movie... wondering if he will suddenly show up to join the fight... but as some have noted, the final scene felt tacked on at the end just to include Luke somewhere (for the publicity). There needed to be more of a search or adventure than just landing on an island and just finding him standing there.
Because after all, R2D2 had most of the map with him but no one thought to plug him in to get the map by force as soon as BB-8's map was delivered to the Resistance.
I was surprised that there was no mention of Lando (we saw his ROTJ co-pilot), and wonder if he will appear in the next movie... if Billie Dee Williams is keen for it.
The destruction of Corescant felt unnecessary (not to mention, impossible for the Resistance to be able to see it in the midday sky, as their secret base wouldn't have been in the same star system... and even if it was, the distance between planets wouldn't have made it visible).
They also didn't explain much about the Republic Senate, or how it was re-instigated in just 30 years after the fall of the Empire, who needed a large army to keep in line a galaxy that was now a feudal system of governors in charge of their own star systems, according to Ep4. Without a Jedi Order or Imperial army, the Galaxy would have fractured into independent star systems that now had individuals with a lot of power that would be less likely to surrender it by voluntarily rejoining the new Republic (and the Rebellion wasn't a big enough army to liberate and police all those star systems)
And why are they still the Resistance? They liberated the Galaxy from the Empire and there is now a Republic Senate again... what official body are they resisting if the First Order is shown to be a rebellious army that is operating against the Senate, under the command of their own leader.
Now that some have noted on the first page of this topic how similar the plot is to Ep4, it makes it even more disappointing.
The death of Han was not a surprise to me, so I didn't get shocked or upset. I suspected it was going to happen when Ren spoke about him to his master as a source of conflict (so killing him would prove himself to his master), and then just before Han followed Ren onto the walkway I just knew that it was not going to end well. It is sad, but I guess those older characters will have to get killed off or disappear somehow to make way for the new generation to take on the spotlight. I just don't like how certain story writers are required to include a major death for no benefit than ticking the box of having a "tragic" element to appease their Directors & Producers as well as Movie Reviewers... when a good story doesn't do something so permanent on a major or fan favourite character, that prevents future potential plots, and upset the fans you are supposed to be attracting to spend more money on future movies or re-watching that movie.
As Transformers fans, we saw what happened in 1986 when Optimus and other significant Autobots were killed off in the Animated movie... he was supposed to stay dead, but Hasbro had to retcon it due to the backlash of fans, as including the required "tragic" plot element in the Movie was not a good idea (and rarely is... as we see when major characters are killed off in the comics - it upsets more readers who loved that character and will no longer see them, than those who actually got sadistic enjoyment from their death).
I give the movie a 5 out of 10.
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