PC Hardware and building thread

[prjkt]

Used to build my own until I got a Mac Pro in 2008. Still modding this one a bit, ram upgrades, adding USB 3 and non-supporter GPUs but my next machine may be a custo pc with an OSX86 hack in addition...

[DELTAprime]

Oh BTW: here's what my ultimate build (2017 edition) is going to be. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dt7Ghq

The CPU and motherboard are purely placeholder, but the rest of it is either currently installed and in use if it's marked as purchased or I'm waiting for a good special on the part.

[DELTAprime]

Hopefully the 7700k's that Intel have given to motherboard manufactures that have ended up in the hands of journalist are pre-production samples or something (tho I doubt it). Intel appear once again to have stuffed up their TIM (Thermal Interface Material) application. Delidding the 7700k and applying your own TIM to the die results in a 30 degree drop in temperature. http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-77...ormance-tests/

[DELTAprime]

Well the Geforce GTX 1080 Ti has been leaked via a job posting. I have to wonder how stupid high the Australia Tax will be on that one. http://www.pcworld.com/article/31511...scription.html

[drifand]

As much as the mobile devices had kicked in, it's very annoying that mobile site has some lacked features and I still have to turn on my PC time to time.

I have not bothered to make a new PC like 7 years already though I do feel I need a media pc

[DELTAprime]

So it can be safely assumed that AMD Ryzen's 8C 16T variation AMD is showing off will be a subpar gaming CPU just like the Intel 6900K AMD is aiming it at. I wish AMD would show off something that would compete better against the top gaming CPU the 6700k and it's upcoming replacement the 7700k. Even if AMD gave me a 8C 16T Ryzen for free I wouldn't install it because it be worse at gaming than my 6600k.

[DELTAprime]

Am I the only one that thinks putting 3 super expensive Corsair ML LED fans in the front of a NZXT H440 is a waste of money when you can get non-LED fans that perform similarly for cheaper?

Here's the H440 for reference. https://www.nzxt.com/products/h440-white

[VodooCaMo]

So it can be safely assumed that AMD Ryzen's 8C 16T variation AMD is showing off will be a subpar gaming CPU just like the Intel 6900K AMD is aiming it at. I wish AMD would show off something that would compete better against the top gaming CPU the 6700k and it's upcoming replacement the 7700k. Even if AMD gave me a 8C 16T Ryzen for free I wouldn't install it because it be worse at gaming than my 6600k.

Hey Hi Delta!

You should really check this video out :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylvdSnEbL50


basically looks at un-optimised performances of the old cpus (due to intel monopoly share) and how performance of the same old chips (crappy bulldozer) has increased in FPS vs the same intel chips that were leading.

Goes on to clarify about new architecture, and AMD manufacturing for all consoles will ensure AMD Ryzen architecture will be optimised.

[UltraMarginal]

OK, so, after more than a year without a PC, i've decided to hop back in the arena. The laptop I'm writing this on just doesn't cut it for working from home.

I want a decent fast machine that will last a long time, the last one lasted nearly a decade. I will use it for the general internetting, office software, hopefully some fairly high range CAD and also hopefully for some gaming, though the gaming might not be particularly high end. I will also be re-ripping my entire CD collection. I'm also considering putting together a NAS box to keep media on and share with the smart TV etc. I'm a big fan of good sound so I would like a board with decent audio, not that there are many out there these days that don't.

so far I'm looking at the following: (I've been using PC Part Picker as a filter and general idea of prices for stuff, I'll later refine my prices with Static Ice)

Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (I realise there is 10th Gen stuff out there, and it's not much different in price but this processor has great clock speeds which tend to be better for CAD and gaming. )
Noctua NH-D9L 46.44 CFM CPU Cooler (Noctua are the best, and this cooler isn't super expensive, has great stats for noise and energy dissipation)
Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (this board has great reviews but I'm wondering if it's a bit over powered for what I need)
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 CL14 Memory (the chipset doesn't support 4 lanes, just 2 so it's better to get 2 sticks of 16 than 4 sticks of 8, this set is the cheapest set I could see with this low a latency. )
ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (a decent drive, Decent per $ data volume, might swap out for a single TB. considering adding a multi TB hybrid or platter drive to hold data. )
EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card (seems to be a good sweet spot, price for power and should be competetive for years.
Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ( I'm a fan of the filtering options on this, it's apparent quietness and it's proven popular for a long time)
Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ( to support my old fashioned CD fetish)
Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

I haven't booked in a power supply yet, considering keeping the Silver standard 850W unit from my old machine. It does have a lifetime warranty if that's worth anything.
Might also keep the DVD burner
Might also keep the functional hard drives. (traditional)
Might also keep the case fans (pretty decent)
I am pretty sure my old i7 cooler (Noctua) won't fit a 9th Gen i7, I haven't looked in to it yet, just an assumption.
the MOBO, RAM, Video Card and Primary Hard drive are all very well dated and the HDD is failing.

I'm not convinced that Ryzen is worth worrying about, it supports M.2 NVMe with PCIe 4 but the real world performance difference doesn't seem to be user noticeable, processor speed against the i7 above isn't as high, therefore not as good supporting CAD or other sequential software. I've also heard Ryzen is less stable.



Thoughts, recommendations are welcomed, I might be a day or two responding. am I shooting too high, should I just be getting an i5 with lower spec everything and saving a grand?

[philby]

Well the Geforce GTX 1080 Ti has been leaked via a job posting. I have to wonder how stupid high the Australia Tax will be on that one. http://www.pcworld.com/article/31511...scription.html

interesting...i splurged on a 980ti when we built our system a year or so ago but dont think i need to upgrade it at the moment!

seems like cpu sector is really slow at the moment, nothing much happening there for ages!