SPOILER THREAD - The Last Jedi

[drifand]

I have major issues with the story, while a lot of people who defended the movie , they don't even realize the genre of this movie tying Star Wars as a "kids movie" so all the bombs drop in space, opening air locks , flying through space with no helmet are forgiven. > It bugs me when the entire story is bad and these minor things just adds up. Secondly the movie is rated M with violence, I am not sure if these people really understand what is a kids movie and are just saying things because they have to.

Now despite the top part, the main issues is the story. If you watch the movie and read the novelization, it makes sense. Which brings me to point one, the movie wasn't on point in telling what happen or how it happen > It just goes THIS happen, and thats it.

Minus Luke and Snoke's death, which eliminates any further story point for the next episode, the movie does not make the audience excited about whats going to happen next. Unlike TFA, we have lots of questions, this episode just leaves me with a "ur okay" vibe.

Luke character felt under utilise and wasted. Doesn't bug me that he died, but it feels like they didn't make use of the opportunity. Part of it was that Rian doesn't want to make Luke powerful so it doesn't over shadow Rey or other characters. But still you have a nobody who can lift rocks with hardly any training, and looks like she gets better.

Leia not coming forward in the last scene is just wrongly thought out. No mother would not confront her own son and just run away. Not especially when your husband was just killed by your own son. We can all discuss about it, but I have no confidence in this story at all. It should have been made in such a way that the remaining group convince her not to go out of the base.
I guarantee no mother would have walked away in regardless whether Luke turned up as a hologram and she was aware of it, take note at this point nobody knows Luke's a fake, only Leia or C3PO would know, but Kylo has no clue, how ironic. This unfortunately is a problem and I know mums will never chicken out to face their son especially this looks like a family problem.
Seeing Kylo has feelings about killing his mum, I dont think he would kill her in front of the first order.

The other bits, Finn < poor guy, he deserves better than Rose. I don't even want to go there. Holdo >despite criticism she doesn't know how to control fly boy, I only felt she was wasted. Captain Phasma and finn deleted scene was better. Third lesson from Luke was in the trailer but not in the movie feels cheating the audience.

Second main fail point is how Ben become Kylo was just cut short. Luke ignites Green lightsaber, and wham....I am now Kylo Ren. Like I said there is no build up, or how he becomes Kylo, it just automatically happens. Both characters fail, one Luke deciding to kill Ben of which a character from Return of the Jedi will not even kill his own dad but wants to kill Ben over a dream which should have been shown so it makes it more believable.

Ben on the other hand is missing the parts on how he decides to join Snoke and become who he is.

There is a big gap and is cut short. Not to mention missing Knights of Ren. I can watch this again and again but it doesn't fit well at all in this new trilogy.

I don't hate it, but I am not super hype with the story and it fell short. I might feel Phantom Manace as not exciting but I enjoyed Darth Maul and Obi and Qui Gon fight scene as much as what happened in the throne room. However, Snoke death just means Kylo is the main villain doesn't feels like he is someone who is going to kill Rey even though in the scene when he is fighting Luke he says he is going to kill her. Well she just saved your arse back in the throne room, and over the entire story you have made a connection and nothing of hate, including touching hands. I am not convinced Kylo has what he takes to kill Rey.

I can go with the flow but honestly is a bad story. I watched Tomb Raider and I enjoyed it a lot more than this, and is solely because the story line has proper on point direction. Sometimes trying new things will pay off and sometimes destroying certain things could back fire. I believe everyone would have loved Star Wars to be a success, unfortunately I think there is significant numbers that felt this movie wasn't doing well as it should. Take note, before anyone starts bragging about how much this movie made, it has nothing to do with what is going forward from here. Most fans will watch this movie in order to know whether they will like or dislike, hence the sales would have been high. The next few Star Wars movies will actually show if there was indeed a damage to the brand.

Overall, I feel Rian Johnson isn't experienced and his movie could have been told in the same way but better.