Quote Originally Posted by Sinnertwin View Post
Skywarp a major character? Put the crackpipe down, you luddite. He was a B character at best, much like Thundercrcacker. Bombshell clone? You're really clutching now. I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or give you a headbutt. You're obviously one of those iT hAZ 2 B SkyWarP BeKoz he'Z a pLanE folk that clearly can't accept what's in front of them.
Oh really? Who - besides Megs, Sscream and Soundwave - were major characters then? Shockwave who sat on his purple arse on Cybertron going 'The bridge isnt working again mighty Megatron' every few episodes? Thundercracker who never used his sonic boom? Reflector who they couldn't even bother giving the toy colours too? Or maybe the cassettes who had one line uttered between the lot of'em? At least Skywarp actually did stuff and teleported around the place both to fulfill mission objectives and attack in interesting ways in battle. The others from S1 - when the movie script was written - did sweet f-all!

Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
C’mon Griff. You’re reaching here mate. Like, Go go gadget arms! reaching. Saying that the one in front wasn’t the main Cyclonus? That same logic also means that Scourge might not have been front and centre when all the sweeps were created and that maybe Kickback actually became Scourge.
You gots a lot of gall having a go at the main site Mod by saying he's reaching when he's provided a coherent argument. The real Cyclonus must have been the one in front because he was the one in front? By that rationale - and every porn I've ever watched on the net - then the one that was behind the other and then on top should be the dominant one, and in this case that makes that one the real Cyclonus. And that one was Skywarp.

Plus Unicron said 'Scourge' when Thundercracker was being reformatted, and then 'Sweeps' when the Insecticon clones were. He didn't say 'Cyclonus' until both robots were reformatted. Have you even seen the move?