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    Good. Hopefully this is a better version that has risen from Botcon ashes.


    Generation Selects has done some nifty items but nothing that resembles ‘a set’. It would be nice if Botcon can work with GS to nail the production of exclusives.
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    If they have convention exclusive toys I'm in. I'm already itching for an excuse to visit Star Wars Galaxy's Edge at Disneyland, and another Botcon would do it. Don't see how they could do this without Hasbro's or Takara's support though...... and unless it was given their blessing before the announcement was made, I think it would probably burn bridges rather than build them with Hasbro.
    On the lookout for MISB Headmaster Highbrow, Takara or Hasbro. I'm sure I could make you a sweet deal!

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    Finally some first-hand info has come out, and I'm not as excited now...

    Bret Lovell answers some peoples questions about the new Botcon at about the 1 hour 8 minute mark of the Stasis Lock Podcast.
    #1 Pete Sinclair is a stock holder in the BC Productions Company, but not a majority shareholder
    #2 Bret Lovell is the Manager of BC Productions
    #3 Karl Hartman is involved in the process of planning and running the show
    #4 Bret wants Botcon to be AFFORDABLE and to bring it back to the Pre-2001 days
    #5 Night Shining is a Licensee to sell Botcon Product. They are a separate show.
    #6 Bret is open to Licensing out the name to others for other products.
    #7 This is a continuation of Botcon, not a start over.
    #8 Night Shining was the first company to approach them to sell product, so that 's why they have Botcon merchandise for sale.
    #9 BC Productions started within the last month, so everything is happening fast.
    #10 Primal Sabbath is involved in making the Botcon Product Guide.
    #11 The name of the main author of the Product Guide is currently being withheld.
    #12 Bret's goal is avoid previous mistakes made by previous Botcon companies.
    So it sounds like a group of fans (I still have no idea who Bret Lovell is, as I've never heard of him before), put together enough money to buy the rights to the BotCon trademark from FunPublications & register a new BotCon company, and plan to use the name for merchandising, not just conventions... which means we could see the BotCon brand be licensed out around the world on events and products.
    The first licensed "BotCon" merchandise will be a guidebook of past BotCon products, to be sold at Pete's Robocon in a few months time. (as noted above, Pete is one of the shareholders of the new BotCon company, with his existing company "Night Shining" (which does the RoboCon event) being the one first using the name).

    As a fan of BotCon, I'm not too excited about the name being a money-maker, being slapped onto all sorts of things for a fee... particularly if they aren't being sold at a BotCon event as BotCon merchandise.
    It's still very early, so I'll wait a little longer to see, and hope that this is something that Hasbro get involved with, if it really is a "continuation of BotCon".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnertwin View Post
    Call me ignorant, but what has Trump have to do with grown men and toy conventions? I'm struggling to connect the two
    And I'm struggling to understand how people misinterpret things just to create something negative.

    I didn't say there was anything related between toy conventions (or toys at all) and Trump.
    I only said that I didn't like him.

    Me not liking that horrible person is nowhere near the same thing as saying that trump does not like toy conventions.

    Like with any leadership role, being president of america is a great responsibility, not be a prize to then do anything you want like a dictator... he should be setting an example of a higher standard for others to follow, not actively try to divide the country and lie & cheat to get what he wants (we've seen what has happened in other countries that had leaders behaving like Trump)... which is why I said that I'd be okay with not ending up in America during the trump regime (if he doesn't get re-elected).

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    How is asking why you'd reference Trump and bringing politics into a toy convention post creating anything negative ? I wasn't sure why, so I raised the point.

    I get it now. You don't like the guy. Go hard.

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    Now I'm even more confused. How could you 'license' Botcon for merchandising? Just slap there word botcon on shirts and hats to sell, what, dozens? I thought it was somewhat bizarre when I clicked on the store link (I was hoping for a cache of unsold past botcon toys) and saw the shirts. I assumed it was just a prelude to what might be coming, and not the entirety of their efforts
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    Quote Originally Posted by reillyd View Post
    Now I'm even more confused. How could you 'license' Botcon for merchandising? Just slap there word botcon on shirts and hats to sell, what, dozens? I thought it was somewhat bizarre when I clicked on the store link (I was hoping for a cache of unsold past botcon toys) and saw the shirts. I assumed it was just a prelude to what might be coming, and not the entirety of their efforts
    That's what I don't get either. I know that "BotCon" is an iconic concept or word, but only really among a small number of hardcore Transformers fans, so licensing it out for producing non-toy merchandise, seems a little weird. Even during BotCon's golden periods, around about 2000-2002 and 2007-2011, when it was more positive than negative, prompting most fans to consider it the one event they needed to attend at least once in their lives.... there wasn't really a demand for non-toy items with "BotCon" written on them. I went to all but one BotCon since 1999 and was always buying stuff at the convention for others back here in Australia, but very rarely did I get requests for non-toy BotCon items. And those non-toy items weren't being requested because they had BotCon on them, but because of what they were or what they had on them (like comics, stickers, shot glasses or hats that just had regular Transformers logos on them).

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    The first of the official BotCon merchandise comes out this year, which includes....
    - the first volume of the BotCon product guide (two cover versions - Pete's Robocon version and regular version),
    - 4 different Tshirts (each has "BotCon Est 1994" on the front - blue one with first BotCon logo for the regular pack, red one with first logo sold by Pete's RoboCon, blue/grey one with 3H era Logo sold by Pete's RoboCon, black one with FunPub era logo for the RoboCon pack)
    - a convention badge similar to what they had at BotCon 1994 (part of the regular pack)
    - a lanyard with BotCon on it (part of the RoboCon pack)

    With the 2021 BotCon now being noted as being during our Winter (mid-year), a little over a year away from a convention full of expensive limited BotCon souvenirs, we are already being bombarded with limited expensive BotCon souviners, as if there is a demand for them without a convention to commemorate them with.

    (if someone obsessed with BotCon like me who attended 16 of them and has almost every BotCon toy and non-toy item ever produced, has almost no interest in non-convention items (I'll get the product guide, as it covers the toys that I collected), what chance do they have at selling these to Transformers fans who have been to less BotCons, or none at all - even FunPublications had the sense to only sell exclusive toys outside of the annual convention, and if they didn't sell at the event, they didn't sell out on their website later)

    Pete's RoboCon is in June, at the same hotel as the final BotCon in 2016 (Louisville Kentucky), for that exclusive version of the product guide along with three different t-shirts and a lanyard.... while the regular edition of the product guide comes as a pack with the t-shirt and convention badge have been listed on BBTS, for a very hefty US$75.
    Judging by the description of the 144 page soft cover book, it is only covering the 180-odd toy exclusives... but maybe a planned 2nd volume will cover non-toy exclusive items, like t-shirts, posters, comics, trading cards, etc.

    This special "1994" edition of BotCon Beyond The Convention: The Ultimate Product Guide, is only available at BigBadToyStore! The 144-page, softcover book has an exclusive cover featuring Generation 2 Breakdown and is limited to only 300 copies.
    Each book will be bundled with a limited edition BotCon 1994 throwback T-shirt, and a limited edition BotCon 1994 inspired attendee pin. The t-shirt is based on the original purple t-shirt design. The attendee pin is like the original design and will feature the number 127 because the very first BotCon had 126 total attendees. The t-shirt and pin will only be available in this BBTS Exclusive bundle.
    Every year during its tenure from 1994 to 2016, the BotCon conventions offered fans the chance to purchase new and exciting exclusive action figures to add to their collections or take home as extra special souvenirs. Over 180 of these exclusives were produced during those 22 years, ranging from repainted figures to full redecos to re-sculpted parts to fully new accessories and action figures only available at the events!
    BotCon Beyond The Convention: The Ultimate Product Guide Volume 1 is set to be the first publication to collect and catalog every single exclusive and provide a comprehensive guide to every figure sold by 3H, Men In Black, OTFCC, and Fun Publications. Volume 1 showcases the figures, accessories, and convention memorabilia with clear and clean photography letting these amazing collectors’ pieces have the perfect display to dazzle. In addition to that, there will be over 16 pages of behind the scenes and in progress images of the various levels of production of a BotCon exclusive.

    Whether reliving nostalgia or fawning over what collectors may deem as “a grail”, BotCon Beyond The Convention Volume 1 will be a remarkable reference for toy fanatics everywhere!

    Product Features


    • Softcover book
    • 144 Pages
    • Limited edition of 300
    • By James M. Kavanaugh, Jr. and Dakota Rabörn
    • Throwback T-Shirt based on the original 1994 design (Sizes Small to 3X)
    • Limited edition 1994 Attendee Pin #127
    • BBTS exclusive bundle



    The products being sold by Pete's RoboCon...
    - The pre-BotCon party registration pack (US$98), Admission and Friday night party, with exclusive version of the BotCon book (also limited to 300 copies - a total of 600 being sold), exclusive t-shirt (black version) and exclusive lanyard (different to any that were used at the different BotCons).
    - red version t-shirt (US$19)
    - blue/grey version t-shirt (US$20)

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    The company that now owns the BotCon trademark, has listed a lot of the old FunPub magazines and comics on their online store, but as bundles though, so if you are desperately wanting just one or two missing issues, you will have to buy a lot of others with it... but they are heavily discounted though, from their original prices.

    Their main page notes that the Robocon is now listed as being on July 24-25, which is a month later than originally planned. I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being cancelled though, as a month shouldn't see much difference in the situation over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    And I'm struggling to understand how people misinterpret things just to create something negative.

    I didn't say there was anything related between toy conventions (or toys at all) and Trump.
    I only said that I didn't like him.

    Me not liking that horrible person is nowhere near the same thing as saying that trump does not like toy conventions.

    Like with any leadership role, being president of america is a great responsibility, not be a prize to then do anything you want like a dictator... he should be setting an example of a higher standard for others to follow, not actively try to divide the country and lie & cheat to get what he wants (we've seen what has happened in other countries that had leaders behaving like Trump)... which is why I said that I'd be okay with not ending up in America during the trump regime (if he doesn't get re-elected).
    If Donald submitted membership here (assuming he answered the trivia question correctly), would he be allowed access? Poses quite an interesting question.

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