Netflix WFC toys and cartoon

[Tha_Phantom]

That trailer looks good! I'm looking forward to this.

[Jellico]

Nice to see Elita isn't another limb bot.

[shockNwave]

This trilogy could blow me away more than the Prime Wars trilogy.

[griffin]

Just a warning for those looking at buying the Netflix toys - get a good look at the toys to make sure they are the correct ones, as it is easy to just quickly grab a full set by focussing more on the names on the box or the toy moulds inside the box, and maybe not noticing the deco version at first. We don't really have much "repacking and returning to stores" here in Australia, but in America it is noticed a fair bit, and since the Netflix Deluxe toys are in the same size box as the Seige/Earthrise toys, whole inner trays have been swapped out to get the new one with a different deco (post #955 if that link doesn't send you to the right page). Further on in that topic, it was noted that someone else found the Netflix Voyager boxes with Siege versions of Megatron and Thundercracker swapped into the Megatron and Hotlink boxes (no photo), while another person found a Hotlink box with a TF2 Deluxe Soundwave & a Tiny Changer & POTP Pretender shell (post #979). That last one is pretty obvious to us collectors, but if a store staff member didn't notice or care, it could be a problem if you have a relative or friend grab you something based on the name on the box.

[GoktimusPrime]

btw, this toyline is officially known as "Trilogy," not "Netflix."
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/War_for_Cybe...logy_(toyline)
Yeah, I know that the nickname that everyone's been giving it has been "Netflix," but just pointing out that "Netflix" is an unofficial nickname for the line, but the toys are officially called "Trilogy." This is similar to how...
* Some fans refer to the 1998 Japanese Beast Wars toys as "Beast Wars II" (often misread as "Two" instead of "Second"), obviously because the cartoon that those toys appeared in was called "Beast Wars Second."
* Some fans refer to the 1999 Japanese Beast Wars toys (aside from BWM) as "Beast Wars Neo" for the same reason as BWII.
* Almost every Anglophone fan referred to Transformers Car Robot as "Transformers 2000" even though neither the show nor the toyline was called that.

I'm not necessarily bagging out fan terms. After all "gestalt" and "Generation 1" are fan terms (and Generation 1 became an official term in 2000), but just saying that it is officially called "Trilogy." Hence why the review thread for Trilogy Scrapface is called that, and not "Netflix." Carry on.

[Tha_Phantom]

btw, this toyline is officially known as "Trilogy," not "Netflix."

To me it looks like it is called 'Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy', which is going to make things confusing very quick as both Siege and Earthrise toys are under the 'Transformers War For Cybertron Trilogy' banner.

* Some fans refer to the 1998 Japanese Beast Wars toys as "Beast Wars II" (often misread as "Two" instead of "Second"), obviously because the cartoon that those toys appeared in was called "Beast Wars Second."
* Some fans refer to the 1999 Japanese Beast Wars toys (aside from BWM) as "Beast Wars Neo" for the same reason as BWII.
* Almost every Anglophone fan referred to Transformers Car Robot as "Transformers 2000" even though neither the show nor the toyline was called that.

Some fans also use the terms 'RID 2001' and 'RID 2015' to differentiate those series from each other, which are pretty well accepted. Calling these 'Trilogy' toys 'Netflix' makes it easier for everyone to quickly get their point across.
If Hasbro wants us to use their official terms I feel like they need to try harder.

[nalops]

I vote we call it 'Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy: War for Cybertron Trilogy'.

[GoktimusPrime]

Hasbro's creative nomenclature strikes again!

[griffin]

btw, this toyline is officially known as "Trilogy," not "Netflix."
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/War_for_Cybe...logy_(toyline)
Yeah, I know that the nickname that everyone's been giving it has been "Netflix," but just pointing out that "Netflix" is an unofficial nickname for the line, but the toys are officially called "Trilogy." This is similar to how...
* Some fans refer to the 1998 Japanese Beast Wars toys as "Beast Wars II" (often misread as "Two" instead of "Second"), obviously because the cartoon that those toys appeared in was called "Beast Wars Second."
* Some fans refer to the 1999 Japanese Beast Wars toys (aside from BWM) as "Beast Wars Neo" for the same reason as BWII.
* Almost every Anglophone fan referred to Transformers Car Robot as "Transformers 2000" even though neither the show nor the toyline was called that.

I'm not necessarily bagging out fan terms. After all "gestalt" and "Generation 1" are fan terms (and Generation 1 became an official term in 2000), but just saying that it is officially called "Trilogy." Hence why the review thread for Trilogy Scrapface is called that, and not "Netflix." Carry on.

Again... this toyline is NOT officially called "Trilogy" by Hasbro.
You, and whichever fan last updated the WFC page on the tfwiki fan-run site can call it "Trilogy" if you want, but this site will adhere to the official Hasbro series name, which has "Netflix" in the title.

As this was already discussed before on the 26th of June and forgotten/ignored, let's go over it again... because, newsflash... tfwiki is not always right.

Not according to Hasbro...

E9489 TRA GEN WFC NETFLIX DELUXE
E9490 TRA GEN WFC NETFLIX VOYAGER BATTLE COLLECTION
E9494 TRA GEN WFC NETFLIX LEADER UNBOXING COLLECTION

If that's what they are officially called by Hasbro, that's what they will be officially be called here (unless there is a double up like RID and "generic" Generations).

Besides... look at the Siege and Earthrise packaging - ALL of those toys are "War For Cybertron Trilogy" toys, so we need a sub-line or prefix from the packaging and product listings (Netflix) to distinguish this Mirage, Sideswipe, Chromia, Megatron, etc from the other WFC Trilogy Mirage, Sideswipe, Chromia, Megatron, etc.
(if you label these Netflix toys as Trilogy toys without "Netflix", then you have to label those other toys as Trilogy toys without "Siege" or "Earthrise"... and that just gets really confusing)

And to add to that, to prove that tfwiki is wrong... the official product press release (which I had to copy here, while BWTF is currently offline), says as the series name... and I quote....

"Generations WFC Netflix Wave 1"

Not only is the toyline OFFICIALLY named by Hasbro as "WFC Netflix", and has three size classes that Hasbro has OFFICIALLY used the words "WFC Netflix" in them... it is still tfwiki that is right and Hasbro is wrong?

Even the in individual product names in the press release by Hasbro, doesn't match up what is on the tfwiki page.
The press release notes each toy with the prefix of "Generations War for Cybertron Series-Inspired"... where "Series" is referring to cartoon series, not toy series. Even though the cartoon is using Siege toys in this chapter, these "Series-Inspired" toys are specifically cartoon decos toys.

Look again at the press release. Each toy in each series and sub-series, has that series or sub-series as the prefix right before every toy name.
- Bumblebee Cyberverse Adventures
- Generations Selects
- Studio Series
- Generations War for Cybertron: Earthrise
- Generations War for Cybertron Series-Inspired

Since we call the "Generations War for Cybertron: Earthrise" toys as just "Earthrise", the same should be done to give us, "Netflix" or "Series-Inspired".

This means that tfwiki should be calling the Netflix toys as EITHER just "Netflix" or "Series-Inspired" under the main series heading of "WFC Trilogy"... NOT "WFC Trilogy" (which would make it WFC Trilogy WFC Trilogy as it's official name).

Let's take a quick look at what TakaraTomy offically calls them... it's either "War For Cybertron" or "War For Cybertron Series", which is again, referring to the cartoon "series" like the Hasbro press release. There is no "Trilogy" anywhere in either of the main Japanese listings for the tfwiki to be referring to either.


Remember, tfwiki is run by fans, not Hasbro.
And unless Hasbro has named something in error (the occasional name-swap or typo), this site will always try to stick with official Hasbro naming... and only refer to fan-run sites like tfwiki if the official source can not be referred to at that time.
(feel free to let them know at the tfwiki that they are officially wrong if you like, and show them the proof so that they can fix it)




As a side note - if this had been a situation that had Hasbro recycling a series name (like RID and Cyberverse), this site will differentiate between them if possible, like referring to something like the year of that series... or the size-class or mould if there are multiple (Bumblebee) toys in the same toyline.

We need to make things easier for future visitors and users in the reviews and news sections by planning ahead with what will make senes. It would be like having every WFC Megatron toy just called "WFC Megatron" here... that wouldn't be much help to anyone.

[GoktimusPrime]

It would be like having every WFC Megatron toy just called "WFC Megatron" here... that wouldn't be much help to anyone.

Indeed