MP39+ Spinout (Red Sunstreaker) announced

[Tha_Phantom]

Now I know we all gave up trying to understand the numbering convention long ago but why is this a "+" version (previously reserved for toon or toy repaints of the original release in the same colour)? Previously they would have called it MP-39R in the same way they did with Red Bumblebee etc.

Not sure the + really means anything anymore. Burning Convoy was MP-38+ for instance. So I guess the + simply means alternate deco rather than toy or toon specifically?
It'll probably change again in 12 months.

[DaptoDog]

Not sure the + really means anything anymore. Burning Convoy was MP-38+ for instance. So I guess the + simply means alternate deco rather than toy or toon specifically?
It'll probably change again in 12 months.

Haha yeh I know. I forgot about MP-38+. So Cordon would probably have been a + but they knew they were doing Red Sunstreaker so reserved the + spot for it. Simples.

[Jellico]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

[Deano85]

Nice repaint but it's still not Jazz haha. Waiting till we get some colour pics of Fans Toys Jazz

[Tha_Phantom]

Is it wrong that I want that head on a Sunstreaker?

Heh

[Paulbot]

Haha, was just making a thread for this too.
Yeah, I'm in for it 100%. Apparently the name Spinout was in consideration before Hasbro settled on Sunstreaker for the G1 toy (and made it yellow).

Everything I've seen, including two of the colouring & activity books, indicates that Spin-Out was a red version of the Sunstreaker toy with the name and bio change at some point late in the game.

It's this history that makes me want to buy this, but Sunstreaker (in any colour) is an expensive MP. And I thought buying Blue Bluestreak was pricey.

When you think about it the unused names like Spin-Out, Blow-Out, Sprint, Guzzler all names seem odd today but Sunstreaker, Cliffjumper, Windcharger and Trailbreaker would seem odd if we hadn't heard them for 36 years.

[GoktimusPrime]

[griffin]

Everything I've seen, including two of the colouring & activity books, indicates that Spin-Out was a red version of the Sunstreaker toy with the name and bio change at some point late in the game.

I don't remember if it was said why there was a late colour swap of Sunstreaker and Sideswipe, but I remember that is said to be why their bios (and the abilities on the cartoon) didn't make much sense, but did with each other bot.

Since we already have the yellow redeco of MP Sideswipe, it will look interesting pairing it up with a red MP Sunstreaker... and give us an idea of what the main cast would have looked like if we put the redecos on the display shelf with the other 1984 Masterpiece toys.
A red Sunstreaker was something sorely missed during the time of the Japanese Ehobby reissue redecos, as we got the yellow Sideswipe (which they called Tigertrack)... so finally having a red Sunstreaker will be like having the Gen2 coloured Combiner Wars Stunticons... it's not exactly the original, but close enough, for now.

[griffin]

I still haven't found where it was noted (at one of the BotCons I think) by someone official about the colours of Sideswipe and Sunstreaker being swapped late, but I did manage to find the Bob Budiansky panel at BotCon 2010 that noted the original names of various first year toys, including Sunstreaker originally being called Spinout...

Stalker was changed to Ravage
Fireball was changed to Jetfire
Blowout was changed to Cliffjumper
Guzzle was changed to Trailbreaker
Sprint was changed to Windcharger
Spinout was changed to Sunstreaker
Slazer was changed to Laserbeak
Jazzz was modified to Jazz

[DaptoDog]

Stalker was changed to Ravage
Fireball was changed to Jetfire
Blowout was changed to Cliffjumper
Guzzle was changed to Trailbreaker
Sprint was changed to Windcharger
Spinout was changed to Sunstreaker
Slazer was changed to Laserbeak
Jazzz was modified to Jazz

There's not one name there I wish wasn't changed.