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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydisc
    Just because Wikipedia = Wiki does not mean Wiki = Wikipedia.
    Fair enough. I thought that "wiki" was an abbreviation for 'wikipedia.'

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydisc
    This helps explain things. It certainly would explain why you received no explanation for your addendum's removal. How would you be contacted? In my experience, in virtually any online context: wiki edits, blog postings, etc., anonymity immediately discounts any potential quality in the content for many reasons, including its lack of accountability and the inability for it to be followed up.
    On the Edit History page people can leave comments for why they edit the page - and in doing so, explain why they've undone certain edits and thus leaving feedback to anonymous contributors.

    Quote Originally Posted by FFN
    Gok, obviously removing our tone or bias is an justifiable reason for your edits to be reverted without explanation, especially from an anon IP address. It would be seen as vandalism.
    So you're saying that TFwiki doesn't accept contributions from anonymous users? Doesn't that kind of defeat the definition of what a wiki is? jaydisc's posted definition of wiki states "A wiki is a page or collection of Web pages designed to enable anyone who accesses it to contribute or modify content" and the front page of TFwiki states "TFWiki is the Transformers knowledge database of 7,638 files that anyone can edit or add to!"

    Just because my edits or contributions are anonymous doesn't mean that they're acts of vandalism. Furthermore, if TFwiki has a policy of rejected anonymous edits, then why are some of my other anonymous edits (e.g.: EU --> EU/AU/NZ) not undone? It seems that my edits are only undone when they conflict with the opinion(s) of someone else, which I think is bad form.

    If someone's edit is a true form of vandalism or is incorrect or not substantiable enough, then sure, I can understand that edit being undone. But I don't think it's fair for edits to be undone if they are factual or attempting to remove someone's personal bias from an article.

    Wikipedia defines Vandalism as:
    "...any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, which cannot and will not be tolerated. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.
    Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is
    not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not considered vandalism. For example, adding a controversial personal opinion to an article once is not vandalism; reinserting it despite multiple warnings is. Not all vandalism is obvious, nor are all massive or controversial changes vandalism. Careful attention may need to be given to whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well-intended, or outright vandalism."

    I can see no notice on TFwiki informing users to create an account in order to gain the privilege of editting pages, and if this is indeed a policy on TFwiki then perhaps it needs to be modified so that only registered users who have logged in are able to edit pages. Wikipedia pages which are prone to frequent vandalism have been locked so that unregistered users cannot edit them (e.g.: Wikipedia's page on Christianity). It's a similar reason as to why message boards like this one only allow registered users to post. So if TFwiki is willing to allow anonymous users to edit pages then they need to consider the validity of their contributions and not reject them based solely on the fact that they're unregistered.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyDigger
    I have no wish for this to degenerate into an argument.
    I think everyone's been quite civilised and rational in presenting their views and disagreeing on certain points quite respectfully. *shrug*
    Last edited by GoktimusPrime; 19th November 2008 at 07:28 PM.

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