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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippo View Post
    I think am I done with Masterpiece Transformers; I haven't been a fan of the change to "hyper cartoon accuracy" and I can see that new Masterpieces are probably just going to be V2/3 of the older Masterpieces to make sure they all look alike.
    Not to mention the increasing cost (due to the extra complex Transformations to hide things?) ..
    They're barely Transformers anymore. Most of them turn completely inside out more than transform. The vehicle mode hides the robot parts, and the robot mode entirely hides the vehicle parts and replaces them with G1 cartoon accurate kibble. It's uninteresting.
    I'm really just here for the free food and open bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark View Post
    They're barely Transformers anymore. Most of them turn completely inside out more than transform. The vehicle mode hides the robot parts, and the robot mode entirely hides the vehicle parts and replaces them with G1 cartoon accurate kibble. It's uninteresting.
    For me it's, the opposite, I a actually really like it when they use a bit of clever trickery to account for the impossibility of cartoon morphing, it makes the transformations (which can be quite complex) a more satisfying interaction. The main toy line seems to have gone down the more straightforward G1 toy with modern design look that Masterpiece used to be, so it feels like MP's are going the complex translation and ultra toony way just to separate the two lines.

    That said I'm not defending everything about the MP line, it is prohibitively expensive, and much like the main toy line they keep releasing the same G1 characters over and over again.

    I will probably end up getting Starscream so I can sample the design and the transformation and see how they pull it off, but once I've done that I can't see why I'd want to get any repaints at that price.

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    The transforming away of the horizontal and vertical stabilisers is what has me sold. That is not a small thing in terms of cartoon accuracy (if that's what you value). I also like the folding of those bottom spikes of the wings (where the wings abut the air intakes) compared to MP-11.

    But still, the price...

    On the bright side, I can't imagine another Megatron or Optimus, so this is probably it for the G1 jets. And maybe all the rich collectors who fork out for the main 6 (or more?) allow HasTak to develop MP Mirage or Jazz or Trailbreaker or Galvatron... dunno.

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    As gorgeous as it looks, I ain’t forking out $500 for it. As well as the prospect of another 5 x$500 for the other seekers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Metro View Post
    As gorgeous as it looks, I ain’t forking out $500 for it. As well as the prospect of another 5 x$500 for the other seekers.
    Nor should you, but lucky there are stores which aren't EB who are charging around $300 for it before shipping.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha_Phantom View Post
    Nor should you, but lucky there are stores which aren't EB who are charging around $300 for it before shipping.
    Yeah, but even at $300, it’s just not worth the expense for me unfortunately. I’m getting too old for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    I couldn't justify the expense of Optimus v3 or BW Megatron... and have trouble wanting to buy a lot of the recent ones due to their higher prices... this one I've decided against getting as well.
    To date, I have continued to collect every single release, and almost all of the exclusives, but not the cross-over ones with other brands. But the last one I actually opened and played with was Ironhide from a few years ago.

    The prices on new MPs have gotten ridiculous for a while, now even more so. If I didn't start off collecting from the very beginning, I probably would not have been motivated to continue collecting the new ones.

    The high price also puts me off from opening and playing with one. I fear I'd scratch the paint or damage the toy in some way. The Siege / Earthrise lines are giving me the same characters and more satisfaction at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by SharkyMcShark View Post
    They're barely Transformers anymore. Most of them turn completely inside out more than transform. The vehicle mode hides the robot parts, and the robot mode entirely hides the vehicle parts and replaces them with G1 cartoon accurate kibble. It's uninteresting.
    I agree with this. Convoy v3 does look very good in both modes and I did get him. But I can't help but feel the MP transformation on these recent ones "cheat" a lot. All the parts on the surface of the robots are "fake" car parts. I much prefer the windows on Prime's chest being the actual truck windows as on MP Convoy v2. It is so iconic and one part I could not forgive for any "cheating"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Metro View Post
    As gorgeous as it looks, I ain’t forking out $500 for it. As well as the prospect of another 5 x$500 for the other seekers.
    I also fear most of them would end up as TakaraTomy Mall exclusives... which would limit the number of online retailers being able to carry them...

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    Even if $300, you can't have 1 without at least Skywarp and Thùndercracker to match that style... and if they have plans for coneheads or other seekers, it will be more difficult to say no to a larger matching set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Even if $300, you can't have 1 without at least Skywarp and Thùndercracker to match that style... and if they have plans for coneheads or other seekers, it will be more difficult to say no to a larger matching set.
    I don't see the problem here...

    Just stirring. I know that factor is what's putting many off and I get that. I'm sold on at least getting the main three, but I will have to see if the coneheads can entice me or not.
    Looking to buy lucky draw Armada Prime and Diaclone Marlboor Wheeljack.

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