Revoltech

[roller]

i think Ark-Ivor calls them "Revol-ting" hahahahaha i like it

[springah]

i love 'em. anime style, posable Transformers? hell yes.

[Hot Rodimus]

Thanks for the opinions.... I was mostly concerned about the quality which from your comments seems to vary but is usualy of a good standard.

I can see the arguement of it not transforming (I have quite a few action masters that I bought as a kid and for the most part like) but who here hasn't spent countless hours arranging and posing their collection just so it looks more dynamic or cooler? These things while not being able to transform seem to provide the possiblilty of some really cool displays and I am sure I will waste time with them just trying to 'capture the essence' of the charater

Thanks Guys

[griffin]

Yeah, not every Transformers-branded product has to have the gimmick/feature of conversion, some have the feature of articulation or detailed sculpting to reflect their form in fiction. When these elements conflict, you end up with one toy that transforms and one toy that is poseable or visually accurate to fiction. The Revoltech line caters for those collectors wanting a 'character toy' that is more poseable than the 'convertable toy', in a slightly different stylisation.

[Hot Rodimus]

I agree Griffin, to me they are visualy appealing though one dimensional. Mind you this is something I am kinda used to since as a kid TF's back then were more than likely only accurate in one mode and not bot and alt so one tended to display the figure predominantly in one mode ( or maybe this was just me?) . This has changed dramatically and maybe a major contributing factor as to why I have once again 'returned to the fold'.

I think statues can illustrate this aswell. There are some awesome statues out there from what I have seen in members collections and in the Queen Street Mall Toyworld (man i could drop a few grand in there in 5 minutes easy). They do even less than an action master or revoltech figure but visualy they are striking and manage to capture a character in a dynamic or striking pose that appeals to a large section of collectors. Eventualy when I have gotten back on top of my collecting I hope to purchase a few of these too.

[GoktimusPrime]

Mind you this is something I am kinda used to since as a kid TF's back then were more than likely only accurate in one mode and not bot and alt so one tended to display the figure predominantly in one mode ( or maybe this was just me?) . This has changed dramatically and maybe a major contributing factor as to why I have once again 'returned to the fold'.

Keep in mind that the majority of Transformers were created as toys first. The cartoon, comics etc. were created afterwards pretty much as a means of advertising the toys. So really, the toys are completely accurate to themselves and if there are differences between the way that the toys look compared to the show or comics it's because the show or comic artists have chosen to make those differences and not because the toy designers were somehow inadequate in mimicking the show/comic models.

That's why I personally avoid using the term "show-accuracy" with most TFs as, to me, it falsely implies that the show is more visually accurate than the toys (and thus implying that the toys are by default "inaccurate") which, for the majority of Transformers, just isn't true. There are exceptions to this (e.g.: live action movie, Animated etc), but for the most part the toys were created first.

Having said that, there's no denying the massive appeal that show-likeness has over TF collectors - it's absolutely a very strong and appealing factor. And unlike Action Masters, Revoltech aren't intended to be part of the mainstream line of Transformers and never dominated the TF toy line like Action Masters did. They're just a quiet side-line that some collectors can buy if they want, whereas Action Master's dominance in the 1990-91 lines is seen by many fans as being G1's death knell.

[Golden Phoenix]

That's why I personally avoid using the term "show-accuracy" with most TFs as, to me, it falsely implies that the show is more visually accurate than the toys (and thus implying that the toys are by default "inaccurate") which, for the majority of Transformers, just isn't true. There are exceptions to this (e.g.: live action movie, Animated etc), but for the most part the toys were created first.

If only the shows were more toy accurate.
Hot shot would really have reasons to complain about his shoulders

[Hot Rodimus]

[QUOTE=GoktimusPrime;75191]Keep in mind that the majority of Transformers were created as toys first. The cartoon, comics etc. were created afterwards pretty much as a means of advertising the toys. So really, the toys are completely accurate to themselves and if there are differences between the way that the toys look compared to the show or comics it's because the show or comic artists have chosen to make those differences and not because the toy designers were somehow inadequate in mimicking the show/comic models.QUOTE]

I am aware of this but the comics and cartoons being such an effective way to market the toys kind of flipped this around for me and others too I am sure. Instead of saying " Geez I wish Ironhide had all that crap around his feet and a poorly drawn head behind a windshield" we where more likely to say" Damn why doesn't ironhide look more like his cartoon character?" This was the reason that I didn't get him as a kid as Mum and I went to the toy store to buy him (thanks Mum) but once I saw what he looked like I chose something else (can't remember what now though). Maybe I haven't expressed this very well in words but I think most people would identify with the comic or cartoon rendition of their favourite transformers and not the toy as it is these forms of media which breathe life into them..

I would love to have a few statues STL and I am envious of the ones you mention, and I also agree with the points you raise regarding them. I guess some of them just hit a special note with certain people which make them appealing.

Eitherway this turned into more of a discussion than I intended which is pretty cool too see ( and says volumes about the participation of the members here!) and I will definately be getting some revoltech when the funds permit it.