Transformers Armada - reloaded.

**griffin** · 5th February 2009, 01:48 AM

**griffin** · 5th February 2009, 02:38 AM

Season 1, Part 1, Disc 2, Episodes 8-14.

8 - Palace
Hunt and release of Bonecrusher in an underground Egyptian temple.
Intro - Bonecrusher.
Errors/confusion/notes:
-Jolt is called Grindor by Hotshot.
-Demolishor sinks into the sand and requests for help. Why not just warp out of it?
-Red Alert and Hotshot defy Optimus as if he wasn't in complete command, and head off after the kids.
-Mechanical droids on guard, created by an *ancient* civilisation.
-Demolishor refers to the Minicon as 'my own Minicon', as if he doesn't already have one.

Minicon count:
Autobots (7) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, (Jetstorm).
Decepticons (5) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher.

9 - Confrontation
Fred & Billy are taken hostage.
Intro - none.
Errors/confusion/notes:
-Why is Rad pedalling, when he is trying to escape Cyclonus while on Highwire?
-The kids can't understand Leader-1, who should speak the same as their own Minicons.
-Optimus uses the Minicons as bargaining chips to save the kids, suggesting that he doesn't value their lives at all. Optimus claimed that they didn't use them as tools, and yet doesn't treat them as fellow team members, giving them up very easily.

Minicon count:
Autobots (7) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, (Jetstorm).
Decepticons (5) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher.

10 - Underground
Hunt and release of Drillbit in the city subway system.
Intro - Smokescreen, Drillbit.
Errors/confusion/notes:
-The Decepticons send off their Minicons on their own, but they don't try to escape. Either they are re-programmed, choose to be loyal to the Decepticons, or aren't really sentient.
-Cyclonus releases Longarm, but it should have been Bonecrusher (animation error)
-Bonecrusher is temporarily replaced by Crumplezone while chasing the kids (animation error).
-Laserbeak doesn't speak? Maybe it's meant to be a drone.
-Smokescreen refers to the 'warpgate' to get to Earth, so why are they repairing the Minicon ship to return to Cybertron?
-Cyclonus is first to use the word 'powerlink'.

Minicon count:
Autobots (7) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, (Jetstorm).
Decepticons (6) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher, Drillbit.

11 - Ruin
Hunt and retrieval of Sonar in an underwater city, said to be Atlantis.
Intro - Sonar (not yet released from its panel)
Errors/confusion/notes:
-Smokescreen is called Hotshot by Optimus.
-Kids say Optimus can't fire while in truck mode, but then uses his guns to blast open the door to the main temple.
-Alexis is way too 'narrator-ish' in explaining stuff for the audience/kiddies.
-Leader-1 and Bonecrusher attack Perceptor at Megatron's command.
-Details of the Star Saber are shown, and a silhouet of the Skyboom Shield.
-Sonar appears on the Autobot's computer screen, but how do they know that that Minicon was in the panel Megatron captured?

Minicon count:
Autobots (7) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, (Jetstorm).
Decepticons (7) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher, Drillbit, (Sonar).

12 - Prehistory
Hunt and retrieval of Runway on an island.
Intro - Runway (not yet released from its panel)
Errors/confusion/notes:
-Megatron wonders why Sonar won't come out of the panel, but knew in the last episode that he needed the other two first.
-They refer to themselves as Transformers. I would think they would refer to themselves as Cybertronians instead.
-The story about the Minicons leaving Cybertron is different to the first episode. This time the Minicons chose to leave during the war, instead of the Autobots and Decepticons having a truce and banishing the Minicons to save Cybertron. This new version doesn't explain why some Minicons align themselves to the Decepticons, and doesn't explain how all the ones partnered to Decepticons willingly somehow left with all the other Minicons by choice. And if it was by choice, why do they join the Decepticons willingly now?
-Jetfire (silhouet) is called Thrust by Optimus, which is a really bad mistake because he puts him in command while gone to Earth, and that could confuse viewers.
-Optimus once again says the Minicons are their friends, but was very willing to hand them over to Megatron as mere pawns when the kids were in trouble. He still has trouble justifying their usage of the Minicons as weapons, without criticising the Decepticons for doing the same.
-The time between the Minicons departure of Cybertron and present day is now 4 million years, instead of thousands of years, as mentioned in an earlier episode.
-Now everyone is saying 'powerlink' when a Minicon plugs in.
-Sonar is able to be forced from its panel by Megatron.

Minicon count:
Autobots (8) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, (Jetstorm), (Runway).
Decepticons (7) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher, Drillbit, Sonar.

13 - Swoop
The Decepticons find the Autobot base and break in to retrieve Jetstorm and Runway.
Intro - Jetstorm and Runway released from their panels.
Errors/confusion/notes:
-Cyclonus is flying with Blackout attached.
-The Decepticons are learning the Minicon language, as if they have never met them before.
-Fred & Billy are left on their own in their first visit to the Autobot Base.
-Megatron's horns extend like stretchy rubber to grab Hotshot.
-Cyclonus crashes while trying to transform, and the next shot has Demolishor grabbing his head in pain.
-Too much talking before the fighting really drags out the action, stalling momentum.
-Hotshot is given the Star Saber to look after. The weakest Autobot given the 'most powerful sword in the universe'.

Minicon count:
Autobots (9) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, Jetstorm, Runway, Sonar.
Decepticons (6) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher, Drillbit.

14 - Overmatch
Hunt and release of Liftor in some mountains, and a Race Minicon near a beach.
Intro - Scavenger, Liftor, Mirage or Downshift (not released from its panel).
Errors/confusion/notes:
-The VA for Demolishor messed up a line, mixing words around, and the Voice Director must have missed it.
-Hotshot is getting cocky with his new powerful Star Saber, showing off all the time.
-Smokescreen is another one who gives a name to his Minicon as if it doesn't already have a name.
-Scavenger wears a huge cloak, but why? Megatron recognised him, and Optimus knows him. Who is he hiding his form from?
-Scavenger easily finds a Minicon, without anyone else detecting it. And why is it yellow, compared to all others being green? Even if it is a defensive Minicon, it is still just a Minicon like all the others.
-Scavenger starts off working with the Decepticons, which would lead viewers to think he is a Decepticon if they didn't know about the toys.

Minicon count:
Autobots (10) - Highwire, Sureshot, Grindor, Jolt, Longarm, Sparkplug, Jetstorm, Runway, Sonar, Liftor.
Decepticons (7) - Leader-1, Crumplezone, Blackout, Swindle, Bonecrusher, Drillbit, (Mirage/Downshift).

**Paulbot** · 5th February 2009, 09:10 AM

Fred and Billy! That's their names. I always think of them i my head as "Bulk and Skull" (although the personalities are reversed from that pair).

**i_amtrunks** · 5th February 2009, 09:53 AM

Only another 20 or so episodes before the show starts to improve Griffin, hold on, you can make it!

**roller** · 5th February 2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by griffin

Season 1, Part 1, Disc 2, Episodes 8-14.

-Optimus uses the Minicons as bargaining chips to save the kids, suggesting that he doesn't value their lives at all. Optimus claimed that they didn't use them as tools, and yet doesn't treat them as fellow team members, giving them up very easily.

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maybe their is more depth to this cartoon then previously thought? Optimus grappling with the hardships of war, such as using the minicons as tools of war etc etc like the idea General Halo put to Prime in the Dreamwave comics, sometimes solidiers have to be sacrificed for victory.

im sure a high school english teacher would point out this observation

As for the name stuff ups, was this retconned in one of the exclusive collector club comics? Saying it was the black hole effecting the cartoon universe?

im still mad that David Kaye and Gorrilla Chalk just used the same old voices from iconic beast characters for this cartoon, not even a slight change in their voice

**GoktimusPrime** · 5th February 2009, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by autobreadticon

I strongly dislike the series, for things such as using the adjectives 'moron' & 'idiot' in cartoons, the English dub just tries to hard, too many bad elements in each episode

I really didn't like how both Optimus Prime and Megatron repeatedly referred to their fellow Autobots/Decepticons as "men." (-_-)

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