Gestalt, does it bug anyone else?

[turtle boy]

That maybe true gok, but, Quintrocombiners would, 1. Take waaaay to long to say and 2. I have to say it slowly to pronounce it right. How are 5 and 10 year old kids going to fare up with that one???

Although I agree that Gestalt would correctly and officaly sepperate, say, Combiner Teams, such as Reflector from Teams that are otherwize considered Combining Teams. Cause they can combine with one another to make one big robot. You say the name of the Combiner in particular and everyone knows what your talking about.

IE "I like the combiner team, The Stunticons" no one, anywhere is going to get that and Reflector mixed up. Unless they live in some kind of warped world where dogs walk people and I am the ruler of the Ant world.

[GoktimusPrime]

That maybe true gok, but, Quintrocombiners would, 1. Take waaaay to long to say and 2. I have to say it slowly to pronounce it right. How are 5 and 10 year old kids going to fare up with that one???

It's only 5 syllables - same as "Fortress Maximus" and I was able to say that as a kid. Grimlock called him "Forky Maxi-face" though, which is still 5 syllables, but I think Grimlock was doing that on purpose to mock him.

Gelshark/Sky-Byte to make a haiku out of it!

Quintro-Combiners
The gestalt obstructs the sky
Five robots in one

Although I agree that Gestalt would correctly and officaly sepperate, say, Combiner Teams, such as Reflector from Teams that are otherwize considered Combining Teams. Cause they can combine with one another to make one big robot. You say the name of the Combiner in particular and everyone knows what your talking about.

IE "I like the combiner team, The Stunticons" no one, anywhere is going to get that and Reflector mixed up.

True, but it would be confusing if the word was used in isolation without specification. e.g.: if you said, "G1 combiners" (e.g.: "I like G1 Combiners") then you could be talking about non-gestalt combiners or gestalts. Or both. Gah!

Unless they live in some kind of warped world where dogs walk people and I am the ruler of the Ant world.

"My Queen!"

[Sky Shadow]

It's only 5 syllables - same as "Fortress Maximus" and I was able to say that as a kid. Grimlock called him "Forky Maxi-face" though, which is still 5 syllables, but I think Grimlock was doing that on purpose to mock him.

Grimlock called him Forktongue Maxiface, Fullstrength Motleypuss and Fruitloop Multipuck. That made me LOL as a kid.

[GoktimusPrime]

Those are the ones! You stick it to thatthe man, Grimmie!

[Robzy]

Perhaps we should look to the characters themselves... In the cartoon they never referred to themselves as either Combiners or Gestalts!

Maybe they should be called "Uniters" - as in "Constructicons - Unite!"

Or "Mergers" - as in "Constructicons - Merge for the kill!"

[Golden Phoenix]

Or "Mergers" - as in "Constructicons - Merge for the kill!"

Mergers sounds like something else

[MV75]

That's fusion..... and I think a picture of the animated twins would convey that exact same message.....

[griffin]

Combiners have, and always will be, the generally accepted common term by fans for the multi-teams that merge into a larger robot. It is easy to pronounce correctly (unlike quntro-thingy and gesHtalt), and unless you try to obsessively argue against it, no one would NOT know what actual toys you were referring to. We all know that the usage of the term combiner relates to those 5 or 6 'special teams' that form a larger robot, there is no need to make the majority change for the benefit of the majority. If you prefer to use Combiner or Special Team or Gestalt, then continue to do so, as the words as common fan terms are intechangable.

Stubbornly trying to change the common perseption of a common fan term, like combiners, seekers, matrix, BB, etc, just creates *unecessary* confusion.

[GoktimusPrime]

According to TFwiki the term "combiner" is very broad. The article has a fairly comprehensive list of what counts as "Combiners" and even what sub-class of "Combiner" that they fall under. Source.

The article does fail to mention the fact that "gestalt" has now entered official currency though in Animated and IDW. In Animated the term was used to describe Jetfire + Jetstorm = Safeguard, whereas in IDW it was used to describe Devastator (re: AHM).