Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[griffin]

How many toys are there in the US G1 run 1984-1990? (not including S.T.A.R.S., Time Warrior and decoys)

All these polls have made me wonder and I may be too lazy or tired to count.

About 400, depending on where you cut off Gen1, and how many "extras" you include - like Mail-away, Mini-spies, Minibot variants and My First Transformers.
(list below is from my collection site)

1984 - 28 + 3 Extras
Decepticons - Megatron, Soundwave, Buzzsaw, Skywarp, Starscream, Thundercracker, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Ravage, Rumble.
Autobots - Optimus Prime, Bluestreak, Hound, Ironhide, Jazz, Mirage, Prowl, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker, Wheeljack, Brawn, Bumblebee (yellow), Cliffjumper (red), Gears, Huffer, Windcharger.
Extras - Bumblebee (red), Bumblejumper, Cliffjumper (yellow).

1985 - 50 + 12 Extras*
Decepticons - Shockwave, Dirge, Ramjet, Thrust, Astrotrain, Blitzwing, Barrage, Chop Shop, Ransack, Venom, Bombshell, Kickback, Shrapnel, Bonecrusher, Hook, Mixmaster, Long Haul, Scavenger, Scrapper.
Autobots - Omega Supreme, Jetfire, Blaster, Roadbuster, Whirl, Perceptor, Slag, Sludge, Snarl, Swoop, Grimlock, Grapple, Hoist, Inferno, Red Alert, Skids, Smokescreen, Tracks, Topspin, Twin Twist, Beachcomber, Cosmos, Powerglide, Seaspray Warpath.
Mail Order - Sky Dasher, F-1 Dasher, Drill Dasher, Camshaft, Downshift, Overdrive.
Extras* - (Mini-Spies) Mazda/FX-1 (white), Mazda/FX-1 (yellow), Mazda/FX-1 (blue), Jeep (white), Jeep (yellow), Jeep (blue), Dunebuggy (white), Dunebuggy (yellow), Dunebuggy (blue), Porsche (white), Porsche (yellow), Porsche (blue).

1986 - 58 + 3 Extras
Autobots - Broadside, Sandstorm, Springer, Hotspot, Silverbolt, Air Raid, Firefight, Skydive, Slingshot, Blades, First Aid, Groove, Streetwise, Metroplex (with Scamper, Slammer, Sixgun), Sky Lynx, Ultra Magnus, Rodimus Prime, Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Wreck-Gar, Hubcap, Outback, Pipes, Swerve, Tailgate, Wheelie, Eject, Ramhorn, Rewind, Steeljaw.
Decepticons - Trypticon (with Fulltilt, Brunt), Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, Octane, Gnaw, Runabout, Runamuck, Ratbat, Motormaster, Onslaught, Divebomb, Headstrong, Rampage, Tantrum, Razorclaw, Blast Off, Brawl, Swindle, Vortex, Breakdown, Dead End, Drag Strip, Wildrider.
Mail Order - Spectro, Spyglass, Viewfinder.
Extras - (My First Transformers) Car-Bot, Jet-Bot, Truck-Bot.

1987 - 51
Autobots - Fortress Maximus (with Cerebros, Spike, Cog), Brainstorm (with Arcana), Chromedome (with Stylor), Hardhead (with Duros), Highbrow (with Gort), Scattershot, Doublecross, Grotusque, Repugnus, Blurr (with Haywire), Crosshairs (with Pinpointer), Hot Rod (with Firebolt), Kup (with Recoil), Pointblank (with Peacemaker), Sureshot (with Spoilsport), Punch/Counterpunch, Cloudraker, Fastlane, Afterburner, Lightspeed, Nosecone, Strafe, Chase, Freeway, Goldbug, Rollbar, Searchlight, Wideload.
Decepticons - Scorponok (with Zarak, Fasttrack), Sixshot, Apeface (with Spasma), Snapdragon (with Krunk), Mindwipe (with Vorath), Skullcruncher (with Grax), Weirdwolf (with Monzo), Hun-Gurrr, Cyclonus (with Nightstick), Misfire (with Aimless), Scourge (with Fracas), Slugslinger (with Caliburst), Triggerhappy (with Blowpipe), Pounce, Wingspan, Battletrap, Flywheels, Blot, Cutthroat, Rippersnapper, Sinnertwin, Overkill, Slugfest.

1988 - 60
Autobots - Optimus Prime (with Hi-Q), Quickswitch, Getaway (with Rev), Joyride (with Hotwire), Slapdash (with Lube), Cloudburst, Groundbreaker, Landmine, Sky High, Splashdown, Waverider, Catilla, Chainclaw, Gunrunner, Hosehead (with Lug), Nightbeat (with Muzzle), Siren (with Quig), Landfill (with Silencer and Flintlock), Quickmix (with Ricochet and Boomer), Scoop (with Tracer and Holepunch), Fizzle, Guzzle, Sizzle, Backstreet, Dogfight, Override, Grandslam, Raindance.
Decepticons - Doubledealer, Darkwing (with Throttle), Dreadwind (with Hi-Test), Bomb-Burst, Bugly, Finback, Iguanus, Skullgrin, Submarauder, Carnivac, Snarler, Roadgrabber, Snaptrap, Nautilator, Overbite, Seawing, Skalor, Tentakil, Fangry (with Brisko), Horri-Bull (with Kreb), Squeezeplay (with Lokos), Needlenose (with Zigzag and Sunbeam), Quake (with Heater and Tiptop), Spinister (with Hairsplitter and Singe), Cindersaur, Flamefeather, Sparkstalker, Crankcase, Ruckus, Windsweeper, Beastbox, Squawktalk.

1989 - 57
Autobots - Skyhammer, Crossblades, Vroom, Doubleheader, Longtooth, Pincher, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Jazz, Roadblock, Countdown, Groundshaker, Hot House, Ironworks, Erector, Overload, Highjump, Mudslinger, Powertrain, Tote, Free Wheeler, Roadhandler, Swindler, Tailspin, Big Shot, Flak, Sidetrack, Sunrunner, Fixit, Red Hot, Seawatch, Stakeout.
Decepticons - Thunderwing, Bludgeon, Octopunch, Stranglehold, Starscream, Birdbrain, Bristleback, Icepick, Scowl, Slog, Wildfly, Skystalker, Skyhopper, Airwave, Greasepit, Flattop, Roughstuff, Nightflight, Storm Cloud, Tailwind, Whisper, Blackjack, Detour, Hyperdrive, Road Hugger.

1990 - 85
Autobot Actionmasters - Blaster, Bumblebee, Grimlock, Inferno, Jackpot (with Sights), Jazz, Kick-Off, Mainframe (with Push-Button), Rad (with Lionizer), Rollout (with Glitch), Skyfall (with Top-Heavy), Snarl (with Tyrannitron), Over-Run, Prowl, Optimus Prime, Sprocket, Wheeljack.
Autobot Micromasters - Full-Barrel, Overflow, Retro, Surge, Pipeline, Gusher, Blaze Master, Eagle Eye, Sky High, Tread Bolt, Crumble, Groundpounder, Neutro, Takedown, Big Daddy, Greaser, Hubs, Trip-Up, Big Hauler, Heavy Tread, Hydraulic, Slow Poke, Barrage, Heave, Moonrock, Missile Master, Phaser, Blast Master, Oiler, Slide, Strikedown, Power Run, Wheel Blaze, Road Burner.
Decepticon Actionmasters - Banzai-Tron (with Razor-Sharp), Devastator (with Scorpulator), Krok (with Gatoraider), Shockwave (with Fistfight), Soundwave (with Wingthing), Treadshot (with Catgut), Axer, Starscream, Gutcruncher, Megatron.
Decepticon Micromasters - Blackout, Spaceshot, Terror-Tread, Cement-Head, Bombshock, Dropshot, Growl, Tracer, Barricade, Ground Hog, Motorhead, Roller Force, Direct-Hit, Power Punch, Fireshot, Vanquish, Meltdown, Half-Track, Grit, Knockout, Sledge, Hammer, Stonecruncher, Excavator.

TOTAL - 389 + 18 Extras*

* plus another 12 if you count Mini-spies by allegiance, as each of the 12 colour/mould varieties had an Autobot or Decepticon sticker.

Add about another hundred if you then want to include Hasbro figures released in UK and South America.

[5FDP]

...Why can't we have a legit MP Shockwave? I've heard there's a problem with copyrighting the name. Can someone enlighten me on this please? Thanks.

If it's a Masterpiece then there's a chance that we'll see one at some point as it would be an all new mould. In fact, it's been alluded to for quite some time. A reissue would be a different story as it's been speculated for a while now as to who actually owns the rights. Also, if the mould has been lost / destroyed as rumoured, reverse engineering a mould from an existing toy can be quite expensive not to mention inaccurate. This was the process used for KO Shockwave and KO Sunstreaker which is why there are certain details of the toys that differ from the originals.

[Megatron]

If it's a Masterpiece then there's a chance that we'll see one at some point as it would be an all new mould. In fact, it's been alluded to for quite some time. A reissue would be a different story as it's been speculated for a while now as to who actually owns the rights. Also, if the mould has been lost / destroyed as rumoured, reverse engineering a mould from an existing toy can be quite expensive not to mention inaccurate. This was the process used for KO Shockwave and KO Sunstreaker which is why there are certain details of the toys that differ from the originals.

I wanted to ask about reissues as well actually. That's very interesting, I didn't know all this. Thanks for the info!

[Bidoofdude]

Isn't it also what he looks like, as well? I thought I'd read that somewhere.

[5FDP]

Isn't it also what he looks like, as well? I thought I'd read that somewhere.

Not necessarily. Hasbro produced a resin prototype for Shockwave in the 6 inch Titanium series which closely resembled his G1 self. Sadly, this was cancelled before making into production because the toys were for the most part poorly executed and not very popular. There would be nothing to stop them from producing an up-scaled version of this toy, with a few tweaks of course, and call it a Masterpiece.

We'll see a MP Shockwave before the end of the year if not sooner

[i_amtrunks]

Does anyone know if this "reissue UM" from robot kingdom is legit?

Ultra Magnus

Not a bad price, and I'd like a Magnus with all the bits and pieces they stay where they are meant to!

[5FDP]

Yeah, it's legit. It's being re-released in Asia with a bunch of others. Good luck trying to loose those missiles though

[Megatron]

I have another question, but this time it's about the 1984 G1 Jazz toy. From what I've discovered, there was a different version released in 1985, which lacked door stickers with the word "Martinii" and from what Wiki tells me, entirely lacked the "Martinii Porsche" decals for the windshield and rear spoiler. Wiki also tells me that this was an exclusive mail-away version from Cookie Crisp cereal. Also, the one with the missing stickers has an "R" instead of "TM" on the front flap. Here's a comparison pic:



Can anyone confirm this, and if so, does this mean that the mail-away version is rarer/harder to find?

Thanks!

[Skullcruncher]

Pre-rubsign on the left, with rubsign on the right. Pre rub is much cooler

The cookie crisp Jazz came in a clear bag - I think.

[Megatron]

Pre-rubsign on the left, with rubsign on the right. Pre rub is much cooler

The cookie crisp Jazz came in a clear bag - I think.

Aha, well that was easy... thanks Skullcruncher!