Transformers questions by newbies, and not-so-newbies

[roller]

Was it ever stated in Beast Wars or Machines that spark transfers, were tricky? and could only be performed by Megatron??

I know Optimus Primal managed to take OPtimus primes easily.

So then why not do the same for Dinobot or Transmutate? To save em from death

[Tommy K]

ok workingoff memory, dinobot and transmutate both died, and the damages done tothem were way past stasis lock, optimus was the first one to do an OPTIMAL spark transfer, what happens is that when you put another bots spark into your body (speeking in the transformers sense) you will gain a new body, a reformation will occur and you will gain a new body. then if you choose to keep the spark its very dangerous to do so. megatron should be stated as a transmetal 2 but an optimal because of what he did with the original megs spark. then you have to think of altmodes, all optimals can have up to 6 modes but the can just have 2 if they want to. theres a whole bunch of other stuff i could go on about, like how tigerhawk, optimal optimus and optimal megatron are all different but i have to study

[GoktimusPrime]

I know Optimus Primal managed to take OPtimus primes easily.

I wouldn't say it was "easy"... it was pretty traumatic really. Primal was convulsing in pain and the other Maximals wondered if he was dying. It was a pretty traumatic transmutation.

So then why not do the same for Dinobot or Transmutate? To save em from death

I'd say that because their Sparks were already dying or dead beyond the point of no return (and thus beyond the point where quarantining a Spark could be possible).

With Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron, their Sparks weren't in any kind of critical condition - merely in a suspended-animation kind of stasis lock, which preserves the Spark. When Dinobot's Spark was faltering, his computer repeatedly prompted a shutdown to stasis lock to protect his Spark - even warning Dinobot that failing to do so may result in loss of Spark, but Dinobot insisted on overriding the stasis lock. In doing so, he allowed his Spark to perish. By time the Maximals got to him it was already too late to save him - and Dinobot knew this (hence the truly heroic nature of his sacrifice).

As for Transmutate - save her Spark?! They couldn't even save her body after it was blown to smithereens by Silverbolt and Rampage! There wasn't enough left of her to build a freakin' bicycle for Chak and Una.

Optimus Primal and Megatron were carrying living Sparks, not dying Sparks.

Edit: re: Tigerhawk - Tigerhawk is an entirely different thing; he wasn't carrying dual Sparks; more accurately, Tigatron and Airazor's Sparks had merged together into one (afterwards their Sparks separated again ressurecting Tigatron and Airazor as Transmetals).

Transmetal TigatronTransmetal Airazor

[roller]

hmmmm yeah i agree with dinobots

Ive always thought that "Dawn of futures past" was just a bit hard to believe, i always thought that transfering a spark, whether it be living or dieing, would be dangerous or like Gok said traumatic.

In "Dawn of futures past" it just seemed so easy to save Unit 2 and Airrazor.
And i got the feeling in Beast Machines that the maximals were in disbelief that a spark could be removed.

Did the Axalon dock with the chromia 10? I dont think we ever see it, and somehow Airrazor and Unit 2 are brought aboard, during a battle with the Darksyde, a bit hard to believe to me

[Tommy K]

ok im just hearing about dawn of futures past, anyone got a copy?

[GoktimusPrime]

In "Dawn of futures past" it just seemed so easy to save Unit 2 and Airrazor.

You have an odd definition of "easy"! Remember that Unit 2 and Airazor had their memories completely wiped as a result of having their Sparks transferred to blank protoforms. That's pret-ty traumatic!

And i got the feeling in Beast Machines that the maximals were in disbelief that a spark could be removed.

The Vehicons accessed or developed technology (i.e. Spark Extractors) designed to remove Sparks in-tact, allowing Sparks to be captured but without allowing them to perish and thus rejoin the AllSpark.

[omega3]

where are the hasbro/ takara markings on g1 primes cab?
and is a g1 bumblebee that is marked takara 1980, 1984 rarer than one thats marked hasbro

thanks

[Rampage]

where are the hasbro/ takara markings on g1 primes cab?
and is a g1 bumblebee that is marked takara 1980, 1984 rarer than one thats marked hasbro

thanks

1) doesnt have any Has/Tak markings on the cab only on the bottom of the trailer

2) not really

[autobreadticon]

sorry forgot about my previous post, are their KO binaltech in the market now?

[Pulse]

There sure are...

If they were better quality, it'd be hard to tell the difference between those & real ones.

For example, Here's a Wheeljack