TFA Season 3 episode 6 - Five Servos of Doom

[Sky Shadow]

I think the problems with G1 were:
+ A big shift toward fantasy (scifi) alt modes as opposed to realistic ones.
+ The introduction of Action Masters who dominated the line.

I don't think it was just Action Masters, but one problem with the last two years of US Transformers toys was that unlike the variety of all the the previous years, all that US fans could buy in 1989-90 were Pretenders, Micromasters and Action Masters. Which wasn't a good selling technique for any fans who have a knee-jerk aversion to those gimmicks. (Personally I love those things though.) Plus the packaging was ugly for a while there - when I first saw the new 1989 Micromaster and Pretender packaging, I thought they were knockoffs. Add that to a lack of a cartoon (good or bad) and the fact that the original fans were growing up and it's no wonder that sales took a hit. Sadly, the Marvel comic was at its best during that period and killed off in its prime.

(And I think MV75 was meaning to imply that the G1 cartoon went past its 'use by' date, not the toyline.)

[MV75]

(And I think MV75 was meaning to imply that the G1 cartoon went past its 'use by' date, not the toyline.)

Yes, the cartoon. G1 should have ended at the movie. I thought that was the current topic flow.....

I won't bother Debating Goktimus as he's wearing his bw rose tinted glasses. I'm new to both cartoons so I can see the similarities and differences in the here and now.

Also, I think they did jump the gun on the jet twins by releasing the toy early. If I had seen them in the cartoon before the toys, I would have gotten the toy for sure as their characters are pretty good.

[kup]

(And I think MV75 was meaning to imply that the G1 cartoon went past its 'use by' date, not the toyline.)

I don't think it was due to a 'passed use by date' factor. More of an ill thought out change of direction.

- Too much Sci-Fi
- Too much Daniel
- Too much Wheelie
- Too much lame characters in general
- Bad execution of villain in most cases (mad Galvatron)
- Super retarded Grimlock with an apron.

[Sky Shadow]

I don't think it was due to a 'passed use by date' factor. More of an ill thought out change of direction.

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- Super retarded Grimlock with an apron.

Good thing that went the way of the dinosaurs. Oh, hold on. Crap.

(I can't believe TakaraTomy chose to not include the crown and yet *keep* the apron. At the moment, that's cost them my Masterpiece Grimlock patronage.)

And to link Transformers G1 season 3 back to the topic...

"Five Servos of Doom"... that's a bit like "Five Faces of Darkness", isn't it?

(Phew.)

[griffin]

I thought that was the point of the title. I just didn't mention it because it seemed too obvious with it not actually meaning anything to the episode.
Otherwise, if I'm wrong, what are the 'five servos of doom'?

[Kyle]

I thought that was the point of the title. I just didn't mention it because it seemed too obvious with it not actually meaning anything to the episode.
Otherwise, if I'm wrong, what are the 'five servos of doom'?

I seem to recall Yoketron calling one of their moves "Five Servos of Doom" in the episode. I need to rewatch.

Think it's meant to sound like one of those 70s kung fu movies from Hong Kong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Fingers_of_Death

The managed to find something that sounds like a kung fu movie and at the same time "Five Faces of Darkness". Very nice.

[SMHFConvoy]

Yoketron calling one of their moves "Five Servos of Doom" in the episode.

Yep it's a move. The episode doesn'y really have anything to do with the old G1 episode, "Five Faces of Doom"

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't think it was just Action Masters,

No, but I believe it was Rob Jung who once said that Action Masters were the nail that sealed the coffin for G1.

- Too much Sci-Fi

I don't think the level of scifi was a bad thing. But I think that it could've been executed and it was often overshadowed by the overwhelming presence of Daniel and Wheelie. The G1 comics, Beast Wars and now Animated have a scifi theme but done much better.

- Bad execution of villain in most cases (mad Galvatron)

Graaargh yes! Crazy Galvatron was so incredibly LAME. (-_-)

(I can't believe TakaraTomy chose to not include the crown and yet *keep* the apron. At the moment, that's cost them my Masterpiece Grimlock patronage.)

I'm not surprised. After all, the G1 Marvel comics were never published in Japan so the crown wouldn't hold the same meaning for Japanese fans as it would for us gaijin scumWestern fans.

Hopefully Hasbro will include it with their version. It would absolutely make sense for their market. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Knowing Hasbro they'll claim that the crown would've made the toy too expensive, but still charge us $150 for the toy anyway. (-_-)

[Zahhak]

I seem to recall Yoketron calling one of their moves "Five Servos of Doom" in the episode.

Im preety sure Prowl also comments on Jazz using the same move(though it looks completely diffrent) when they first meet in season 2

[i_amtrunks]

I was expecting the 5 servo's of doom to have more of a role in the episode.

What a great episode, it's been worth having to wait over 40 episodes to get a back story for Prowl, although now his attitude at the beginning of the series does not quite tie into how he should have behaved, but like every other main character he has grown as the series progresses. Voice acting was once again top notch, and the use of a core cast of characters both bot and con, works well, Prowl and Lockdown now have as good a history as Ratchet and Lockdown.

Anyone else now get the feeling Prowl is going to bite the bullet after that last little piece of advice Toketron left him with?

Bring on Predacons rising, as well as the 2 parter involving Soundwave in the next few weeks, (I figure that both will be Sari and Bumblebee heavy). This is easily the best transformers show we have gotten since Beast Wars.