Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
yes that is true that some unskilled are getting paid more then teachers,police etc.. but if you were to work on a weekend or a public holiday then they should be well paid for giving up time with their families. a lot of the unskilled make a lot of their extra pay by doing that so they can afford to live a little bit more comfortable.Originally Posted by Skullcruncher
Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
Did you see the size of the bag of the stuff? That was huge!!! I don't know why its got so much attention either.
Weekend and Public holidays rates will go nowhere - if someone wants to work odd shifts to get a higher rate then good for them. My issue is when the base pay is greater for unskilled workers than skilled workers. I'd rather have a hospital with capable nurses than a manufacturing company with capable staff anyday.
Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
i actually agree with that. when you have nurses and emergency service workers that their base pay is less then the unskilled worker then the system does need a overhaul. the thing tho is when politicans start touching and reworking stuff, they always end up screwing it up. they would have to be some of the most inept people out there.Did you see the size of the bag of the stuff? That was huge!!! I don't know why its got so much attention either.
Weekend and Public holidays rates will go nowhere - if someone wants to work odd shifts to get a higher rate then good for them. My issue is when the base pay is greater for unskilled workers than skilled workers. I'd rather have a hospital with capable nurses than a manufacturing company with capable staff anyday.
Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
yeah, I don't know how it can be fixed but something needs to be done - medical staff should be their #1 priority IMO - heck its terrible reading the stories of people who drop dead waiting for an ambulance.
Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
maybe if these politicans took a pay cut and had their entitlements taken away then we may see something being done. the politicans shouldn't be getting paid what they get as representing your people and country should be a honour and not seen by a lot of politicans as a job and a way to help their party and mates.
Rank 8 - Deluxe Member
What frustrates me is the perks and renumeration politicians receive after they've left office.
Rank 6 - Dedicated Member
that also pisses me off. when they leave office then that should be it.no more snouts in the trough. another thing that pisses me also is that they put their party first, then their mates and somewhere right down the line come us. it should always be the people and the best interests of the country first. their hell bent on selling most of our assets and prime agricutural land to other countries(also mining leases) that if there is a problem down the line, we are stuffed. you see no other country selling their farms and most of the naturals resources to foreign companies/countries.
Rank 8 - Deluxe Member
I'm in the wrong profession
Rank 10 - Admin
Just a query, not a criticism - if someone only works on the weekend because it is at higher rates, shouldn't they just get paid normal rate because they aren't "giving up time with families" since they have 5 other days to spend with them.
Wouldn't it be fairer to be paid as "overtime", ONLY IF it is a person who works the 5 weekdays AND the weekend (which keeps them away from their families, or personal free time)?
That way, there is only the one penalty rate all week, paid to people who work more than 5 consecutive days in a week. We are becoming a 7-day society, so why have different pay rates to different days? If two people work 5 days a week, and one does Mon-Fri, while the other does Thur-Mon - wouldn't it be fair to pay them the same money for doing the same amount of work? Bump up the regular hourly rate to offset the reduction of the higher weekend rates, and just pay overtime for anyone doing more than 5 consecutive days in a week (if they don't end up with a 2-day "weekend" somewhere in the week). And then after-hours earns the regular penalty of being night rate.
The last place I worked at would have 5-day rosters, but people would earn more because they worked on a Saturday or Sunday, despite doing the same 40 hours and having a "weekend" somewhere in the week.
Some people may target a weekend job because it pays more, just to cover the high cost-of-living (with a family & house to pay off)... but others do it because they are young or single and it earns enough to not work the rest of the week. So if you get paid more for the exact same work (just because it is a different day of the week), shouldn't preference go to people who need it more?
Rank 8 - Deluxe Member
I wouldn't believe everything Abbott and Hockey say. The SPC thing is a lie.
As for the Labor Govt, Gillard got more things through the senate than any other PM.
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