I need to vent!

[CHILENO20]

I read today that the third season of Marvel's Agents of Shield will be screening on Foxtel instead of Channel 7... so even if it does show up on Free-TV later, it will probably be years later.

Channel 7 did well for the first two seasons by screening most episodes within a week or two of America, so the episodes related to Marvel Movies were close enough to the Movie release to be watched while the Movie was in theatres. (like with Avengers 2, the original Helicarrier's sudden appearance was explained in the TV show)

Yet another show that Foxtel have poached that will force thousands of people to downloading it from pirate sites.

If Foxtel ever poach Dr Who for their BBC channel, I will be severely peeved.

Dr Who already appears on Foxtel on UK TV and SyFy channels. It's way too popular to dissapear from Free To Air so I wouldn't worry.

Free to air is a proving ground for Foxtel to poach successful shows.

I think BBC has some sort of arrangement with the ABC, but don't take that as gospel. I can't stand that young girl assistant to the Who.

Dude! How can you not like Clara???? That being said, I always prefered Rose myself

[Handsprime]

When you realise that you got a package today but wasn't aware of it despite the fact you were home at 4pm when it came and you learned about it at 5pm

[DaptoDog]

When you realise that you got a package today but wasn't aware of it despite the fact you were home at 4pm when it came and you learned about it at 5pm

I had the opposite experience the last few days. The DHL delivery driver made two stops in one day to make sure my wife got her package last week. Then today he left another package with our Neighbour who then passed it to my wife when she got home.

[BigTransformerTrev]

My wife and I spent a wonderful week in Paris when we were younger. The city was beautiful, the food exquisite, the people friendly, the art and culture inspiring - for these attacks to happen is in my opinion an attack on the beauty that humanity is capable of.

My heart goes out to those in Paris, a city that has a special place in my heart, and the French people and I join them in both their vow to not let their spirits be quashed and no mercy for the group responsible

[Trent]

My wife and I spent a wonderful week in Paris when we were younger. The city was beautiful, the food exquisite, the people friendly, the art and culture inspiring - for these attacks to happen is in my opinion an attack on the beauty that humanity is capable of.

My heart goes out to those in Paris, a city that has a special place in my heart, and the French people and I join them in both their vow to not let their spirits be quashed and no mercy for the group responsible

It is a fantastic city. Was there in January a few years ago and they had 1 metre of snow in 2 days, more then they had had in the previous decade. It was magic. Walking around such an awesome city when everything was coated in snow

It's terrible what happened but I'm not sure swift vengeance is the answer. I think the world needs to calm down a bit before any action is taken.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's terrible what happened but I'm not sure swift vengeance is the answer. I think the world needs to calm down a bit before any action is taken.

^This

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
- Mahatma Gandhi

"Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love."
- Martin Luther King Jr.

[BigTransformerTrev]

It's terrible what happened but I'm not sure swift vengeance is the answer. I think the world needs to calm down a bit before any action is taken.

You have more level head than I good sir. If I had the chance to be in a room with the guys that orchestrated this atorisity I'd go all DJD on their arses

[Trent]

The American government used the white hot rage the world felt after 9/11 to justify the Afghanistan/Iraq invasion and by telling us that Iraq had WMDs. The lessons we have learned from that (for those that choose to learn them) are that action needs to be taken with careful, well thought out planning, not anger. Especially when we are dealing with countries. All that will happen now is some politician will use the people's emotion to push an agenda that in normal times would most likely be viewed with scepticism and caution.

Keep in mind, for those of you who do not fully understand what ISIL/ISIS is, is that it is the result of the USA/western worlds incredibly, and I mean INCREDIBLY bad planning and agenda pushing.

[griffin]

To be fair, Afghanistan was the base of operations of exported terrorists during that time and needed to be dealt with... and Bush's advisors told him that, but he wanted revenge on Iraq (first) over the unfinished business his father Bush Senior did during his time in office.
And Hussein needed to go, like Assad, but faking the reason for pulling the trigger on an invasion was unnecessary when there was already enough on Hussein to indict him on war crimes (against his own people and Kuwait).
It was simply abuse of power by Bush Junior that resulted in the Iraq invasion after September 11... instead of going to Afghanistan where the son of the Bush's family friends (the Bin Ladens) was located.

And it seems that America's politicians & military just don't learn. They rush in because they think they are the most powerful nation, but don't pre-plan what to do later.
Vietnam - invaded and pulled out leaving a vacuum of power for the Communist Regime to move in and slaughter western supporters.
Cuba - attempted invasion resulting in cementing a dictator... then blockading the country for their own mistake.
Iran - backed Iraq to go to war with Iran, resulting in the creation of an extreme religious state.
Iraq - Bush faked the WMD and used America's military to fight daddies unfinished war, creating a vacuum of power that was filled by extremists.
Palestine - The heavily religious America support the creation of a Jewish state in 1948, oppressing the native Arab/Muslim people and generate hostilities with neighbouring countries, creating a regional environment of hatred over the West.
Libya - Supported opposition groups and protected them with no-fly zones, to oust the Gadaffi regime without making sure that a stable government could fill the void.
Afghanistan - Removed the main threat and installed a puppet regime, but didn't reinforce the security of the country, creating power vacuums in the tribal areas of the country.
Syria - Supported opposition groups in an attempt to oust Assad, but creating large parts of the country without stable government, creating a safehaven for terrorist groups.

It's impossible to say that America deserves retaliation because the citizens and soldiers are the ones who suffer... instead of the egotistical politicians who order military operations from the comfort of their oval office, without caring about the consequences of their actions.

And on really rare occasions, there are good outcomes from politicians using public grief to push through an agenda - like the Port Arthur massacre. We'd never have gun reform with our current political parties, but there have been no mass shootings since.

[BigTransformerTrev]

The American government used the white hot rage the world felt after 9/11 to justify the Afghanistan/Iraq invasion and by telling us that Iraq had WMDs. The lessons we have learned from that (for those that choose to learn them) are that action needs to be taken with careful, well thought out planning, not anger. Especially when we are dealing with countries. All that will happen now is some politician will use the people's emotion to push an agenda that in normal times would most likely be viewed with scepticism and caution.

Keep in mind, for those of you who do not fully understand what ISIL/ISIS is, is that it is the result of the USA/western worlds incredibly, and I mean INCREDIBLY bad planning and agenda pushing.

To be fair, Afghanistan was the base of operations of exported terrorists during that time and needed to be dealt with... and Bush's advisors told him that, but he wanted revenge on Iraq (first) over the unfinished business his father Bush Senior did during his time in office.
And Hussein needed to go, like Assad, but faking the reason for pulling the trigger on an invasion was unnecessary when there was already enough on Hussein to indict him on war crimes (against his own people and Kuwait).
It was simply abuse of power by Bush Junior that resulted in the Iraq invasion after September 11... instead of going to Afghanistan where the son of the Bush's family friends (the Bin Ladens) was located.

And it seems that America's politicians & military just don't learn. They rush in because they think they are the most powerful nation, but don't pre-plan what to do later.
Vietnam - invaded and pulled out leaving a vacuum of power for the Communist Regime to move in and slaughter western supporters.
Cuba - attempted invasion resulting in cementing a dictator... then blockading the country for their own mistake.
Iran - backed Iraq to go to war with Iran, resulting in the creation of an extreme religious state.
Iraq - Bush faked the WMD and used America's military to fight daddies unfinished war, creating a vacuum of power that was filled by extremists.
Palestine - The heavily religious America support the creation of a Jewish state in 1948, oppressing the native Arab/Muslim people and generate hostilities with neighbouring countries, creating a regional environment of hatred over the West.
Libya - Supported opposition groups and protected them with no-fly zones, to oust the Gadaffi regime without making sure that a stable government could fill the void.
Syria - Supported opposition groups in an attempt to oust Assad, but creating large parts of the country without stable government, creating a safehaven for terrorist groups.

Not even remotely going to try to defend the many stupid actions of the western nations, however while they may explain the actions of IS, it doesn't excuse them

It's impossible to say that America deserves retaliation because the citizens and soldiers are the ones who suffer... instead of the egotistical politicians who order military operations from the comfort of their oval office, without caring about the consequences of their actions.

Exactly