*SPOILERS* Freedom is the right of all sentient beings...

[RageOnTheRoads]

Yeah Schwarzenegger Prime = serious 0____0 moment for me.

I guess my shock stemmed from the fact that I had read both the comic and the novel before I saw the movie. Both adaptations depicted Prime in his typical violence shunning/reflecting on the pointlessness of war way. So when Prime dropped a Arnie/Stallone one liner and then blew Demolisher away I was a tad taken back... and not in a good way.

Guess Bay still hasn't figured out that its pretty pointless to fight for freedom, justice and all that is good, if you can't uphold -or loose sight of- the very values you supposedly stand for.

[griffin]

I agree that it was too blood-thirsty for Optimus, and I can't believe Peter Cullen and that Japanese Designer (forgot his name, but gave Bay a statue award of some sort recently) don't seem to have a problem with this new portrayal of Optimus (and to a lesser extent, Megatron, who is the first Megatron in our 25 year history to be a willing subserviant). Or at least, they can't say anything publically against this corruption of the two classic institutions of Transformers.

Although, in relation to hunting down the Decepticons, it was mostly the objective of the US military for the purpose of national security to erradicate them (before they become a threat again). I just think that the Autobots were portrayed as a little too keen and battle hungry, and seemed too 'Decepticon-ish' to me.

Autobots capture, not kill. Especially when the opponant has been contained/neutralised.

While on the topic of Megatron being a willing slave with no ulterior motive to take over... If he really is the brother of Optimus (seems official, according to the comics), surely it makes him a 'Prime' as well, as Optimus was one for being a descendant of one. And therefore, Optimus wasn't the last Prime, and The Fallen should have been fearful of Optimus AND Megatron.

[kup]

I had a similar issue with this scene as Tiby and mentioned it in my review - It's pretty much due to Bay not understanding what he is doing and wanting the movie to be artificially more 'hardcore' and blatantly contradicts the character we saw in the first movie which as I understand it, its within the same continuity as this one.

[TF76]

I won tickets so had a chance to see it again, I didnt find prime to be as cruel this time.

[Tober]

...but jeez, they couldn't have tried something like "Screw you, we'll base ourselves in Australia then!"?

Our government doesn't seem to like Megatron coming into here either tho

[ NO! I'm still not over it! ]