So is the point of this thread to discuss general philisophy and ethics and/or not TF specific? Because I have views on Transformer ethics and philisophy. Eg. From the Transformers point of view spoilers for ROTF: I don't think Megatron killing Sam to help save their race is such a bad thing, but destroying the sun and therefore Sam's whole race is but I think this may be an unresolvable issue.