Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
Just because it is the same name, doesn't make it the same character. The Movie's Fallen is a completely different concept to Dreamwave's Fallen.
It's the concept foor is referring to, not the name.
Although according to Forest Lee who writes the toy packaging bios, it is supposed to be the exact same character, since The Fallen is a 'mulitversal singularity' - there's only one in the multiverse and he can travel between Transformers universes.

No, I don't buy it either.

(Another thing I won't buy is this DVD, [although I do like Alice.])