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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent View Post
    Instead of voting for whichever of the 2 parties you dislike the least, how about voting for another party/independent entirely? Nothing will ever change if people only ever vote for the major 2. Give someone else a go. They can't do any worse.
    In a two party system, that has very little impact.

    I don't like Liberals or Labour but if I vote for an independent party (which I actually do), then my vote goes on to preference one of the bigger parties or has no impact as Raider mentioned.

    It's not about being proactive, it's being aware that the system gives people an illusion of choice when there actually isn't any.

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    But you can make a difference in the senate, very much so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llamatron View Post
    But you can make a difference in the senate, very much so.
    Senate, yes... unfortunately too much so while they are allowed vote-swapping, with people getting elected with just 0.2% of the people wanting them as Senators. Hardly a representation of the people that a Democracy is supposed to be.

    As for the Lower house, as noted by Raider, there aren't any people or parties that have a substantial or reasonable range of policies that you'd want to have running the government.
    Greens have a place as part of a government, but you wouldn't want them running the government with their more radical ideas and putting the brakes on Tasmania's growth when they were in power there as a State government.
    Palmer could have been an alternative if he wasn't in politics to better his own business interests... and some of his crazy stunts and ideas would destroy the economy and country.
    Democrats used to be an alternative, but lost their independent identity to voters when they got into bed with Labor in the 90s.
    A lot of the independents are more reliable and ethical than the two major parties, but they aren't a party, nor do most want to start one... so until we get an organisation that has policies across all departments and a constitution that puts the people before personal financial interests, the majority of people feel trapped between the political tennis match of alternating between Labor and Liberal, with more people voting a party out than voting a party in now (we are more inclined to vote against things than show support for policies... which leaves us as a people with a leadership that we don't really trust, endorse or even want).

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Senate, yes... unfortunately too much so while they are allowed vote-swapping, with people getting elected with just 0.2% of the people wanting them as Senators. Hardly a representation of the people that a Democracy is supposed to be.

    As for the Lower house, as noted by Raider, there aren't any people or parties that have a substantial or reasonable range of policies that you'd want to have running the government.
    Greens have a place as part of a government, but you wouldn't want them running the government with their more radical ideas and putting the brakes on Tasmania's growth when they were in power there as a State government.
    Palmer could have been an alternative if he wasn't in politics to better his own business interests... and some of his crazy stunts and ideas would destroy the economy and country.
    Democrats used to be an alternative, but lost their independent identity to voters when they got into bed with Labor in the 90s.
    A lot of the independents are more reliable and ethical than the two major parties, but they aren't a party, nor do most want to start one... so until we get an organisation that has policies across all departments and a constitution that puts the people before personal financial interests, the majority of people feel trapped between the political tennis match of alternating between Labor and Liberal, with more people voting a party out than voting a party in now (we are more inclined to vote against things than show support for policies... which leaves us as a people with a leadership that we don't really trust, endorse or even want).
    ^ this +1

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    Stumbled across this last night which I thought was interesting. Some of these countries are no-brainers, others were a bit of a surprise.

    Enemies of the Internet:

    Bahrain, Belarus, Burma, China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Vietnam.

    Countries Under Surveillance:


    Australia, Egypt, Eritrea, France, India, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Russia, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, and United Arab Emirates.
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    I made the leap into VPN's last week and settled on Private Internet Access. For the price, it's quite good. You get a robust VPN and a proxy to use with one program.

    Like other VPN's, it tends to drop here and there so I would suggest setting a kill-switch using what ever firewall you have just for added security.
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    Reviving old thread because of more news. Court decision today being made on this.

    http://www.news.com.au/technology/on...007ddf04742efc

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    "the same people that sell heroin"

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA You hear that? We destroy lives and make a profit for ourselves selling dangerous material to kids.

    Well, that being said, how can Hollywood execs buy their third wife their third house? hmmm

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