My thoughts on Beast Wars so far

[Autocon]

so if bws were real and they transformerd, would there be blood? would all the guts show?

[griffin]

Fan of BW here...
Just this talk about BW makes me want to go watch the show again.

[kup]

so if bws were real and they transformerd, would there be blood? would all the guts show?

No - What makes the Beast Wars character look realistic is synthetic skin on the outside. Notice that when they get damaged and the skin is scraped off, there is metal underneath. It's somewhat similar to a Pretender shell.

Basically if you put a Beast Wars character to the flame and burn all the skin off, you would end up with a robotic animal not unlike G1 beast modes.

[GoktimusPrime]

I really really liked Beast Wars. I was about 8 when it first aired but the writing is mature enough that I can still appreciate it when I go back for the odd episode.

That makes me feel reeeaaaally old! (I was in uni when BW came out!) But yeah, I like how the show has lots of action and fun for kiddies to enjoy, but also a good story (and occasional adult humour) for older audiences.

"Oh, yeah, yeah, heh heh, scouting the enemy, yeah. Heh heh. Find any new positions?" - Rattrap (The Agenda, Part 1)

so if bws were real and they transformerd, would there be blood? would all the guts show?

No - What makes the Beast Wars character look realistic is synthetic skin on the outside. Notice that when they get damaged and the skin is scraped off, there is metal underneath. It's somewhat similar to a Pretender shell.

Autocon, think of Alice from Revenge of the Fallen. When she transforms to robot mode it's not as if there's blood and guysguts spewing everywhere -- her organic form is just an illusion. They're robots in disguise.

[kup]

wrong quote, Gok. I was 15 when Beast Wars came out

[Sky Shadow]

I like the fact that they look so alien. "Transformers and Philosophy" states that technically the Transformers shouldn't have virtually _no_ alt mode kibble at all and that the movie designs show too much. It argues that all their alt mode parts should really pull apart and hide somewhere, leaving a pure protoform on the outside. Similar to how some insects are able to pull back a carapace and reveal wings etc. But as someone from Hasbro pointed out, as unrealistic as it may be, having alt mode kibble is something very iconic about what makes a robot a Transformer -- so I appreciate the fact that the designers tried to reach a compromise between 'realistic scifi fans' who would insist on kibble-free robot modes, and traditional Transformer fans who would want lots of kibble.

I disagree with that book. There's no logical reason why Transformers shouldn't have kibble and it's certainly not "unrealistic" that they do. It's not like they're Transmorphers or Animorphs. The only time it's unrealistic is when a Cybertronian Transformer has kibble from his Earth mode before he's even been given that Earth mode. I admit that's weird.

[liegeprime]

wrong quote, Gok. I was 15 when Beast Wars came out

That makes me feel reeeaaaally old! (I was in uni when BW came out!) But yeah, I like how the show has lots of action and fun for kiddies to enjoy, but also a good story (and occasional adult humour) for older audiences.

I was 23 by that time BW came out, (3rd year in my Degree- 1 more year to graduate) so you guys are still young hehehehe

I warmed up to beast wars ....TV series show coz of the good storytelling and yeah adult themes which were handled well... nothing cheesy or campy. BUt as for toys Ive only warmed up to them ( well not all really) now that Ive re watched the whole series. BUt even now Im only after the show toys not all of em. Guess Im not really just a full on BW fan.

Oh and kup yeah I agree, We both blame Hasbro heheheh, its their fault. Its all about proper marketing strategies and they bungled it up big time.

More lashes I say!

[Sam]

I was in year 9 when Beast Wars was shown on TV. I remember seeing it and thinking "That's Megatron? Noooooo! What have they done?".

Heh... the timing of this thread is ironic. Last Friday a former poster from alt.toys.transformers started a thread where we're all posts should be like 1998 never ended so we've been reliving what life was like during Beast Wars' hey day.

I'm glad you're enjoying Beast Wars Sam. I think it's clear to see how Beast Wars managed to save Transformers from oblivion after "Generation 2" brought the franchise to the edge of extinction. I see Beast Wars as the Transformers' Renaissance.

I still remember my initial feelings towards BW when I was in high school, however having grown up now I realise I didn't spend enough time trying to understand the series. Personally, I still like TFs better if their alt modes were vehicles or "mechanical" objects, however BW has a really solid storyline and there is continuity between episodes! (I always wanted the original US cartoons to show some continuation between each episode - apart from those story arcs).

Code of a Hero is my favourite Episode Sam, it does help that Dinobot was my favourite character in BW closely followed by the Rat

Honestly I don't know who my favourite character is, but I really dislike Rattrap - such an annoying voice!

[kup]

I was in year 9 when Beast Wars was shown on TV. I remember seeing it and thinking "That's Megatron? Noooooo! What have they done?".

I had a similar initial reaction but I decided to watch a few episodes to proof or disprove by initial prejudice. I am so glad to have been proven completely wrong

[GoktimusPrime]

Yeah I hated Rattrap when I first saw the series. But he soon became a most likable character.

but I really dislike Rattrap - such an annoying voice!

Yet it's the same actor who voices Rattrap also voices Dinobot, Waspinator, Silverbolt, Quickstrike and Cicadacon! He also voiced Omega Supreme, Strongarm, Backstop, Snarl and Jetfire in the Unicron Trilogy English dub (though Jetfire was voiced by a different actor in Cybertron). Scott McNeil is arguably the 2nd most versatile Transformers voice actor next to Frank Welker.

He's an Australian-born Canadian too. (^_^)