The non-toy Star Wars discussion thread

[Trent]

Is there anyone here that identifies with this?

If so please let me know so I can point and laugh at you every day for the rest of my life. Take heart in the fact that you are providing so much comedy during these dark days.

[XMan]

It's a what I can only say a very depressing point in time. I'd like to add the whole Snydercut of Justice League now coming out on HBO Max next year, this toxic fan pandering, and it was the studio that said Zack Synders filmed scene were truly unwatchable, how much of that is true or not I guess we'll find out, or if it was and WB wanted it more colourful as other reports have said, but now that has resulted in #releasetheayercut of Suicide Squad - studios mess up, directors and producers mess, it happened, the movie had aspects of good things, but ultimately failed, and thats ok. Not every MCU movie was good, some are a little cringy, but had aspects good things, but they learnt and moved forward. And hey you know James Gunn is gonna deliver an amazing Suicide Squad movie, Shazam! was great (to me anyway) and Aquaman was a fun ride.

Then there's Star Wars... I truly dont know what to say about the Fandom Menace, but having read a lot of comments, "reviews" (pfft) and some of the down right friggin' disgusting things these 'fans' have to say, whether its attacking a directors sexuality or not being able to accept that a female is in charge (currently) of our beloved Star Wars is beyond me.

Its the 21st Century now, not the 90's or early Naughties. I dont know like I said its just sad.

[i_amtrunks]

Just finished Clone Wars.

Give me a new animated series just based on Ahsoka and Rex. Please.

[XMan]

They're in Rebels and will both be in The Mandalorian season two

[i_amtrunks]

They're in Rebels and will both be in The Mandalorian season two

Yes they are, and yes they will be but after the waste of a series known as ?resistance? We could all do with a cracking show and the last season of clone wars showed that a clone based show with minimal jedi involvement can be done and done well. Also made Ahsokas light Sabre battles at the end even more spectacular.

[Unicran]

Is there anyone here that identifies with this?

If so please let me know so I can point and laugh at you every day for the rest of my life. Take heart in the fact that you are providing so much comedy during these dark days.

I don't even understand what's being said. I'm a simple guy. Perhaps someone can put it in laymans language.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Please...let?s not bring any attention to this toxic minority. They validate themselves through arguments and baiting. They?re like those advertisement monsters from that Halloween Simpsons episode. Just look away and they?ll just fade away back to whatever dank hole they came from.

[griffin]

Something random that popped in my head at work (because it is so boring where I work)...

How is the Death Star structured?
If you think of a building or (space)ship, all of the floors or decks are generally horizontally parallel. And every time we have had the Death Star (either of them) on film, it has the appearance of all decks/floors being horizontally parallel, from the bottom of the sphere to the top.
There's no indication that the levels are curved (like the space station in Space Odyssey 2001), or any sign of the lifts changing directions (like in Star Trek)... but we do know that there are towers on the surface (like the Emperor's tower and gun stations), which are clearly sitting on the surface like buildings on the surface of a planet.
As such, those constructs on the surface are not parallel to all of the decks/floors/levels inside the Death Star... if all of the internal levels are parallel (stacked on top of each other like in an office building). So how do people get into the surface buildings, if the rest of the structure is layered like a regular building?
When ships fly into the Death Star to land in one of the hangers (Vader's shuttle, Millennium Falcon, Emperor's shuttle) they all fly into the side of the Death Star, as if the levels are parallel to the equator... and not like an onion, which would be better for gravity, and make more sense for the "buildings" that stick out of the surface of the Death Star.

Too much thought about something fictional?
Or has this already been explained from an official source, like in one of those reference or cut-away books?

[GoktimusPrime]

Brief thoughts about Eps 1-2 of Obi-Wan Kenobi (SPOILERS).

It is a grimdark world, which makes sense because life is meant to suck under the Empire. A lot of people, especially Obi-Wan Kenobi, have lost hope. Again, this makes sense, because the activation of Luke Skywalker brings forth 'A New Hope.' But in order for hope to exist, you must first have despair - and this series is showing us a galaxy in despair.

Some people have criticised this series as being arguably not dark enough. Um... this isn't The Boys or Invicible... it has to be accessible to kids too. And it is already pretty dark from a kid audience POV. I would argue that it's an even darker tone than The Empire Strikes Back, and that is known for being the darkest of the Original Trilogy films; because as dire as things were for the Rebellion, the main protagonist was not a broken man. If anything, he was over enthusiastic and went against Yoda's advice to stay put; whereas Obi-Wan Kenobi is dispassionate and reluctant to act (as per Yoda's orders). He had to be coaxed by Bail to take action.

Leia has obviously had more screen time than Luke so far. I love the way that little Leia is portrayed; especially with her fearlessness, guile and intelligence; traits that we see 20 year old Leia exhibit even in front of Darth Vader. There's a theory that Leia mildly tapped into the Force when she was able to sense her cousin's feelings and dish out some verbal smackdown.

Some have said that Obi-Wan leaving Tatooine and meeting 10 year old Leia breaks canon; as Obi-Wan is supposed to have remained on Tatooine continuously for 20 years, and that Leia never met Obi-Wan Kenobi. But... I dunno. Admittedly I'm not very familiar with all the stories beyond the films, but AFAIK it wasn't established in the movies that Kenobi never left Tatooine at all. Why can't he have the occasion excursion to other worlds? So long as he spends the bulk of his time near Luke. As for Leia and Kenobi... in Ep 2 he only ever tells her that his name is "Ben." Leia even says that it's "not a very Jedi name," and Obi-Wan insists that that is his name. He also never tells Leia his surname, so she only knows him as "Ben." When Leia records the message for Obi-Wan Kenobi, she doesn't see an image of him; she's just looking at Artoo Detoo. So it's possible that Leia never knew what Obi-Wan Kenobi looked like and never made the connection that Obi-Wan Kenobi was also Ben. She also never really met Obi-Wan either; at best, she caught a glimpse of him from a distance fighting Darth Vader (with his hood up no less), before he sacrificed himself to Vader and became a pile of rags on the floor. Now Leia most likely discovered later on that Obi-Wan Kenobi was also known as Ben Kenobi and made the connection afterwards, but not while she was recording the message for Obi-Wan. So I think it still makes sense for her to say, "Years ago you helped my father in the Clone Wars," as opposed to "Years ago you saved me from kidnappers". She didn't know that they were the same person.

Future episodes may prove me wrong on this, we'll see.

And how stupid is Obi-Wan Kenobi for not freaking having a shave while he's in hiding? You know that you're a wanted man and that the Empire are hunting Jedi. Surely you would do more to change your appearance. Frankly, it would have made sense for Obi-Wan Kenobi to have remained clean shavened throughout the entire Prequel Trilogy era, and then only grew a beard after he went into hiding as a deliberate way to change his looks. I've also never really liked how the Prequels established Obi-Wan's costume in A New Hope as the "Jedi uniform." It was never the Jedi uniform in the Original Trilogy; it was just regular Tatooine commoner clothes that Obi-Wan wore because he was in freaking hiding! We see Owen Lars and Luke Skywalker wear pretty much the same style of clothes - Owen even also has a hooded cloak! They're not dressed as Jedi, they're dressed as freaking commoners! One thing I was looking forward to seeing in the Prequels before Episode I came out was how the Jedi dressed. I was mildly disappointed to see them all dressed like peasantry. :/ And it really makes no sense for Obi-Wan to be dressed as a bloody Jedi knight when he's still in hiding... sneaking around Stormtroopers in Mos Eisley... sneaking around the freaking Death Star... how stupid are you to be sneaking around in the galaxy dressed as the very thing that the Empire has been actively hunting down for decades?

"Let me just maintain my beard and later dress like I did during the Clone Wars while I'm a wanted man. Genius!"

[Tha_Phantom]

"Let me just maintain my beard and later dress like I did during the Clone Wars while I'm a wanted man. Genius!"

Yeah, George really left it like nothing was supposed to happen during the 19 year interval between eps 3 and 4.

Anyway, quite enjoyed the first two eps of Kenobi. Young Leia was pretty well written and they didn't go overboard with the hints of force sensitivity.
The part where Obi Wan spoke about her mother to her (without her knowing that's who he was talking about) hit me in the feels too.