TF3 Trailer - Thoughts and Discussion

[GoktimusPrime]

UltraMarginal: I totally agree with what you're saying. That's why I didn't like how recently in the Transformers comic series how they claimed that North Korea bordered the Republic of China (instead of the People's Republic of China)... and yet one of the front covers shows Rampage's head in front of the PRC flag. Gah... I was simply pointing out that such gross errors aren't new to Transformers, and certainly not new to the movie series. But it doesn't make it any less irritating and it does hamper one's ability to suspend disbelief and enjoy the story. :/ It's the reason why the DVD version of Star Wars A New Hope finally changed the Tractor Beam Power control so that the previously English text has been replaced with Aurabesh (since the English language technically doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe).

[Paul Agnew]

Going to take a wild stab in the dark and say it might be Silverbolt, considering he was confirmed to appear, and voiced by James Avery.

What? He was purple in Beast Machines. It can happen.

[Firestorm]

Just saw the trailer, found it interesting
as for that gold transformer at the end my guess is either
one of the original 13 transformers (probably alpha trion or vector prime)
or this universes version of Unicron, who will be more a destroyer of planets instead of an eater of planets and only be alittle taller than the average transformer
or he could never get named and be completly unimportant to the movie (eg Demolishor in ROTF was shown in the trailers but then was only around for like the first 5 minutes of the movie, but it looks like this movie will be better than ROTF so hopefully golden-boy will be important)
Really looking forward to the movie now

[GoktimusPrime]

Just saw the trailer, found it interesting
as for that gold transformer at the end my guess is either
one of the original 13 transformers (probably alpha trion or vector prime)

Being golden, maybe it's Emirate Xaaron! Although Xaaron was never bearded (but then again, neither was Jetfire ) -- maybe it is Alpha Trion, but with the gold colours as a nod to Xaaron.

or this universes version of Unicron, who will be more a destroyer of planets instead of an eater of planets and only be alittle taller than the average transformer

Problems with this theory:
1: He's kinda short for Unicron
2: I find it odd that a god would remain dormant for half a century aboard that ship

Also... I have a suspicion that the starship on the Moon could be the Ark. We know that the Ark encountered the Nemesis and Ghost-1 in 1969 at the same time as the Apollo 11 mission (re: Ghosts of Yesterday). The Nemesis obviously ended up crashing on some far away planet (as seen in ROTF), but the final location of the Ark has yet to be accounted for I think. We know that the crew of the Ark made it to the Solar System, because obviously Autobots like Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Jazz and Ratchet appeared on Earth a several decades later, and also other crew members like Cliffjumper, Arcee were part of the Autobot assault team who attacked Starscream's Decepticons on Mars shortly after the events of the first movie (re: The Reign of Starscream). Considering that the encounter between the Ark, the Nemesis and Ghost-1 occured in another galaxy, the Ark must have used some kind of transwarp drive in order to arrive in the Solar System within 1969 <insert time-space rantage here>

or he could never get named and be completly unimportant to the movie (eg Demolishor in ROTF was shown in the trailers but then was only around for like the first 5 minutes of the movie, but it looks like this movie will be better than ROTF so hopefully golden-boy will be important)

Hahaha, I love this theory. Makes all our ranting and theorising about the character completely useless.

Alas poor Sideways. (still, he had better screen time than Jolt!)

[Bartrim]

Alas poor Sideways. (still, he had better screen time than Jolt!)

Hey Jolt played a very important role in ROTF. It's not the size of the role it's what is done with it thats important

[griffin]

Apparently it's the Ark...

Makes even less sense for me. According to TF1, their first contacts were with Megatron on Earth and Blackout on Mars. I think if they found a crashed vessel on the moon in 1969, something would have been mentioned in TF1... I hate retcons like that.

And from what UltraMarginal was saying - the moon revolves around the Earth in a synchronous manner, (it's rotation on its axis is the same as its rotation around the earth) so that the same side always faces the earth (in general).
So what is causing a 22 minute radio blackout? It's not the Moon's rotation, as the landing site will always face the Earth. And it wouldn't be from the moon revolving around to the other side of the Earth, because that'd be a 12 hour gap, not 22 minutes (and other radio sites around the world were tracking it anyway).


And really, for a planet (Earth) that is no where near Cybertron, some how everything Cybertronian just happens to land here (and not just in the new Movie universe either). Sure, one-off items landing/crashing/appearing here is a random probability, but 2 or more random items is statistically impossible.
Not only was a Star Killer built here, and not only did the Allspark crash here, but now we have a spaceship on the moon. If it wasn't there looking for the Allspark or Star Killer, then the odds of it crashing there for some other reason is beyond belief (statistically).
Think of the odds of that happening in the billions of planets in the galaxy (assuming Cybertron is even in our galaxy).

[shokwave2]

And from what UltraMarginal was saying - the moon revolves around the Earth in a synchronous manner, (it's rotation on its axis is the same as its rotation around the earth) so that the same side always faces the earth (in general).
So what is causing a 22 minute radio blackout? It's not the Moon's rotation, as the landing site will always face the Earth. And it wouldn't be from the moon revolving around to the other side of the Earth, because that'd be a 12 hour gap, not 22 minutes (and other radio sites around the world were tracking it anyway).

They had a few minutes of Radio blackout which if I understand correctly doesn't happen when you are on the surface of the moon. The same side of the moon always faces Earth. Due to a process called tidal friction the moon rotates at the same rate which it orbits the earth.
The only way there could be radio blackout is if they passed behind the moon in an orbit above it's surface, as depicted in the apollo 13 film.

Sorry but am i missing something here? Why are people talking about the physics and reality of the blackout due to the moons roatation? Didn't you see the Sector 7 guys flip the radio switch so the media and the rest of NASA staff get cut off? This is causing the blackout, which Neil is then told "You are dark on the rock. Mission is a go". The world was probably told about the moon's rotation as a cover-up for the blackout. Am i right or have i missed something earlier in this topic?

[UltraMarginal]

Sorry but am i missing something here? Why are people talking about the physics and reality of the blackout due to the moons roatation? Didn't you see the Sector 7 guys flip the radio switch so the media and the rest of NASA staff get cut off? This is causing the blackout, which Neil is then told "You are dark on the rock. Mission is a go". The world was probably told about the moon's rotation as a cover-up for the blackout. Am i right or have i missed something earlier in this topic?

A Friend of mine did mention that, but even if that's the case, the "sector 7" guys are perpetuating a story that is commonly known to be false. the only time the astronauts are ever on the dark side of the moon is when they are orbiting it in preparation for landing or leaving. The entire Staff at NASA and a large portion of the watching population (given the popularity of Moon and space science at the time) would know that there is no "radio blackout" when on the surface of the moon. It's like telling a 15 year old that Easter Bunny is in fact real.

[Sky Shadow]

The entire Staff at NASA and a large portion of the watching population (given the popularity of Moon and space science at the time) would know that there is no "radio blackout" when on the surface of the moon.

In 1969, if NASA had told everyone there was going to be a radio blackout for twenty minutes, of course the public would have believed it. If they'd told people there was a man up there made of green cheese, people would have believed it.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I was watching it again and my thoughts are that the bot who opens is eyes is reminiscent of Vector Prime. Why? Goldy colours ( although Vector was more Bronze, but I will let that slide ) and most importantly, big angled-up-shoulder bits!

Of course Mr Bay may well turn it into the Mr.Whippy bot of Transformers and it turns out he was actually on the way to deliver Energon goodies to some hungry Sharkticons, but he had a flat tyre, which caused him to swerve out of control and smash into the moon.