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    I enjoyed Masterforce a lot more than I enjoyed Headmasters, at least Minerva does get involved in the action now and again and there are some really great robot designs in it too. (shame the toys leave a lot to be desired, compare Anime GodBomber Convoy to the toy. Brick City. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulbot View Post
    They are driving their Transtectors right? Not other vehicles? The Transtectors are extensions of their bodies so it makes sense they can control them as well in vehicle mode as they can in robot mode.

    PS I like the Masterforce songs
    That'd be true if they were just sitting inside, and just driving by thought. But these kids are actually steering, using pedals and even changing gears. Even if the Transtectors are just an extension of themselves, if they are using those driving tools (pedals, steering, etc) like a normal driver, they would have had to learn how to use them, in order to look like they are driving like normal drivers.

    I know it makes it look more dramatic and exciting, for kids watching and pretending that they could drive a real Transformer, but getting to look like a real driver takes a lot of practice, especially if they are like 10 years old.

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    Ep 6 - Go, GoShooter! Showdown in the Wasteland

    The Decepticon Headmasters kidnap someone, and the Autobot Headmasters rescue him.


    This episode was confusing from the start... trying to explain 3 weird types of energy, that relate to the existence of Humans and the Earth.

    The interesting thing about this series, at least at this point, is the way the Decepticons are trying to recruit followers in the Humans, rather than wanting to destroy them or seeing them as mere insects. Megatron would be disgusted.
    It's also a reversal of the way Humans are usually followers of Autobots, if we ever saw any instance of followers.

    Again, so much time is spent on just the humans. And when the 'robots' show up, it's just the Human controlled Headmasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    Again, so much time is spent on just the humans. And when the 'robots' show up, it's just the Human controlled Headmasters.
    Get used to this or you'll complain about it for the rest of the series. Masterforce is about the humans in the long run, but I didn't find that to be a bad thing because it's about humans who actually are Transformers.

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    Regarding the 3 types of energy, it's what's known as Tenchijin (天地人*) or Chokon (super spirit) power and is based on traditional Japanese spirituality. Keep in mind that this series was intended for a Japanese audience who would be more culturally aware of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paulbot
    Masterforce is about the humans in the long run, but I didn't find that to be a bad thing because it's about humans who actually are Transformers.
    +1. And it's not that much different from the way binary bonding was portrayed in Anglophone G1; granted the "Transtectors" did retain their original personalities, but we did see some humans/Nebulans becoming the dominant personality, e.g. Spike, Zarak. Even Optimus Prime's persona was eventually merged with Hi-Q's.

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    *can't find any comprehensive online info about Tenchijin in English, but here's a brief/basic description
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    That quote was posted by Paulbot.


    And I'm watching a Transformers cartoon because I want to see *robots* in disguise, not humans... I guess I just gotta get used to it and hope that the next series is more robot-oriented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin View Post
    And I'm watching a Transformers cartoon because I want to see *robots* in disguise, not humans... I guess I just gotta get used to it and hope that the next series is more robot-oriented.
    Yeah but I still don't see how it's fundamentally different from what we had in Anglophone G1 where all the Targetmaster, Headmaster and Powermaster partners were human/Nebulan. Masterforce was aired in 1988 where binary bonding was still a big gimmick that HasTak were pushing.

    "More much more than meets the eye!"

    But if it makes you feel any better there's no binary bonding with fleshlings in Victory. All the binary-bonded partners there are robots

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    At least the US comic had the sense of making them just one part of the cast and story, not the majority like in Masterforce. And even then, the nebulons were not often on their own, so weren't the central plot or point of the comic... not to mention, they were just an add-on to the Transformer, not the actual 'Transformer'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallestblue View Post
    I enjoyed Masterforce a lot more than I enjoyed Headmasters, at least Minerva does get involved in the action now and again and there are some really great robot designs in it too. (shame the toys leave a lot to be desired, compare Anime GodBomber Convoy to the toy. Brick City. )
    What? She isn't serving tea for the boys?! What a disgrace!

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