Review - Generations Scourge

[Vector Prime]

Well I finally received my Scourge today, so I thought I would post a few thoughts.

To start off with, his alt mode is very cool and everything is tucked away neatly with little (if any) indication of robot bits underneath.

The transformation is a little bit fiddly but is very well thought out and has quite a few surprising twists and turns (done without reading the instructions).

In bot mode, he's a very nice homage to G1 Scourge (awesome head sculpt) and displays reasonably well with Galvatron & Cyclonus.

My only gripe is that he's a bit short, but otherwise he's definitely a cool toy and a must buy.

8/10 (would be a 8.5 but his lack of height bothers me)

[5FDP]

Interesting. I didn't realise he was that short. You wouldn't happen to have Titanium Scourge would you? I'd really appreciate a side-by-side comparison shot of them to see the height difference.

[Vector Prime]

Interesting. I didn't realise he was that short. You wouldn't happen to have Titanium Scourge would you? I'd really appreciate a side-by-side comparison shot of them to see the height difference.

Nope... sorry mate. If you wanted a height comparison shot with anything in the Classicverse range I can help out with, but I don't collect the Titaniums.

[lcz128]

Interesting. I didn't realise he was that short. You wouldn't happen to have Titanium Scourge would you? I'd really appreciate a side-by-side comparison shot of them to see the height difference.

There's really no comparison between the two IMO -

[GoktimusPrime]

IIRC, Titanium Series were developed entirely by Hasbro (their Galoob division), whereas of course Scourge would have been developed with TakaraTOMY. Hence why Titanium Series TFs pretty much suck. I just get them for characters for which there are no alternatives (e.g. Dark Ages The Fallen, War Within characters etc.). I did get Scourge though cos someone was selling him loose for cheap. Can't wait to get RtS Scourge... besides, I got the Fracas Mini-Con standing around with nobody to binary bond to.

[griffin]

Toy Review - Scourge

Series - Generations
Sub-line - N/A
Size/class - Deluxe
New/remould/redeco - New
Wave - 6
Released here - Expected here April 2011 (released globally January)
Approximate Retail Price - $25-30
Approximate Size - 15cm
Allegiance - Decepticon
Alt-mode - Stealth-bomber
Main Features/Gimmicks - none
Main Colours - Blue, white, grey
Main Accessories - gun

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

I just got mine. I grabbed two in the aid of making them sweeps. I really like it. Lots of possibilities for movement and posing as there are various joins all over his body. The instructions make transformation overly complex though and I found mysle fgetting frustrated with them towards the end. He isn't that complex to transform though, so just drop them and work it out yourself.

The wings allow for different options, ie to follow the picture on the card, or open them up for a larger look, face details are great, light piping eyes effective and paint is pretty good. I also like the way transforming him is very reminiscent of the G1 toy, from what I remember anyway.

Overall, an excellent figure. Vehicle/Robot Scale has always been a contentious issue in transformers, so you have to ignore this aspect, as one does with many other figures and enjoy the toy for what it is, a great toy!

[Deceptic_Optic]

United Scourge and the Generations Sweeps



"please sir I want some more"

[5FDP]

There's really no comparison between the two IMO -

Thanks for the pic lcz128

There doesn't seem to be a difference between the two in terms of height; Generations Scourge just looks bigger because of his 'shoulder pads'.

I don't understand the hatred for Titaniums. I actually thought they were pretty good - especially Ultra Magnus and Scourge. In fact, I probably still prefer Titanium Scourge over the Generations version as he has an accurate alternate mode when compared to his cartoon self.

[GoktimusPrime]

I don't understand the hatred for Titaniums. I actually thought they were pretty good - especially Ultra Magnus and Scourge. In fact, I probably still prefer Titanium Scourge over the Generations version as he has an accurate alternate mode when compared to his cartoon self.

I find them disappointing to play with. A lot of the joints are stiff and clunky which doesn't allow for smooth spontaneous action poses. Some of them are also limited in articulation. Some of them also have panels that don't have any lock, so they're prone to becoming loose when you transform them back and forth heaps (as is a major part of the play value of a TF toy). The engineering behind them is also rather pedestrian. The paint apps on some of the early figures were also really sloppy. And I don't just mean some QC issue, I mean that actual application of the paints themselves are bad... looks like amateur hand painting.

I find both Cybertron Leader Class Optimus Prime and Voyager Starscream to be better designed interpretations of War Within Prime and Starscream than Titanium Series WWI OP and Starscream. Aside from the more simplistic transformations, you look at things like say the massive gap on the back of Starscream's jet mode where his head and hands are exposed. Lame.

I'm pretty happy with my Scourge, but then I paid a pretty cheap price for him. Not sure how I'd feel if I'd paid full price. Ultra Magnus... I don't have this toy, but I've seen someone else's, and I think the appeal is similar to the reason why I got Titanium Rodimus Prime -- I like the concept. But I don't like the execution. I like the concept of a G1 Rodimus Prime toy who incorporates the trailer into the robot mode. And I think Titanium Ultra Magnus shares the same concept - G1 style cab and trailer which transform into a unified armoured robot mode. But I think the execution of this concept wasn't very well done.

Compare it with say Universe/Henkei Ironhide and Ratchet, which share the same concept in terms of taking G1 figures which had detachable trailers, and incorporating those trailers into a unified robot mode that attempts to look like the G1 robot. IMO HasTak did a much better job with Ironhide and Ratchet compared to what Galoob did with Titanium Rodimus. With Ultra Magnus it's arguably easier to execute because you're not trying to make the trailer "disappear" - which is what they would have had to do with Rodimus, Ironhide and Ratchet.

Anyway, basically my main beef with Titanium Series is their poor play value and sub-par level of engineering (in my opinion).

P.S.: Does anyone remember what the RRP for the 15cm Titanium Series TFs was? IIRC they weren't cheap...