No way. He transformed into marbles!Originally Posted by GoktimusPrime
On the down side he's an Action Master.
Trailer Park Ninja I believe we may have been separated at birth. You said everything exactly the way I was thought it.
No way. He transformed into marbles!On the down side he's an Action Master.
Trailer Park Ninja I believe we may have been separated at birth. You said everything exactly the way I was thought it.
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Plenty of comments so far, but I must say that I did have to think about it for a while afterwards for it all to make sense.
Haven't done that after a film for years.....
Loved the twins - Racist? All the 14-19 year olds are acting/talking like that in today's world; Black or white! Trust me, I know!
Thought my collection was complete; then came ROTF...
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I would've been happy to wait for another year or 2 for a better film. I think they just rushed it IMO.
Bay was stubborn about meeting the release date deadline. The Writers' Strike meant that the 3 writers only had about a month to churn out this "story".
It sucks how they have a release date and a pre-production schedule for a film that hasn't even been written yet!
I just wish they had taken more time and injected some heart into the whole thing. There's nothing wrong with taking a little time... hell, the sequels to Alien and The Terminator came out 6 years or so after the originals, and both are considered superior films!
Cheap, cheesy, low-brow jokes are easy... how about something for those of us who like to think?I agree with one review I read... I'm sick of people saying that I just need to turn my brain off to watch this film... that's like asking me to rip out my tongue and then try and enjoy a meal.
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Honestly, I preferred 2007's Transformers film to Revenge of the Fallen. I also never got over Jazz's death if anyone cares, and I still don't like Ironhides English accent...
My main concerns with RotF include the following:
-Too much close-up blurry action, although I was coming down with the flu and sitting in the fifth row when I saw the film at Hoyts Melbourne Central, so that could have contributed to my eye's not adjusting well.
-A cross between sexist and Disney/Pixar humour was used throughout the film. -A lot of unnecessary curse words were used.
-I didn't like the look of the fem-bot Arcee and her sisters, or Isabel lucas' bot mode, which I could never imagine transforming into anything else other than forming the skeletal frame of her Human Pretender Shell.
-Optimus Prime was a no holds barred bastard at times, who's morals were twisted.
-I wanted to see the autobots act on the Presidential order of having to leave the planet because they were the sole reason for the Decepticons presence, after the speech that Optimus gave which was so serious. Otherwise, why include it in the film?
-The desert fight at the end was so-last-film-cliche.
-This is besides the point, but I don't like Shia LaBeouf in action films and I never will.
Last edited by Eruntalon; 29th June 2009 at 03:02 AM.
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And once they left the planet, Megatron would laugh and say "I've destroyed their computer's communications capability and retargeted them to the Sun! They will become one with oblivion!"
Or was I the only one thinking about Megatron's Master Plan during that scene?
Don't ever blame yourself. I'm certain multiple millions by now saw the film with too much close-up blurry action just as you did.
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Lol, by that reasoning, I think there may be quite a few born on the same day then
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Even though it was still pretty fast, I found some of the robot fighting scenes a bit easier to follow than the first movie. The LA battle in the first movie was nearly impossible to follow with the fast edits.
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the most accurate thing i can say is i came out of the cinema...thinking it was shit...after a night of dreaming and processing the amazing action...i woke up thinking....WOW, that was very awesome...sur eit could've been alot better...and it wasnt as good as the first one...but atleast it isn't shit.
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That's a fail alt mode!
Yeah, I was expecting TF2 to come out next year as 3 years is the standard time to make a special effects movie... look at the Star Wars saga; OT: 1977-1980-1983, PT: 1999-2002-2005.
Art v. marketing I suppose. (-_-)
I believe it was there to demonstrate that the alliance between the Autobots and humans was an uneasy one... so that the audience wouldn't believe that they're necessarily the best of friends now. It was interesting to see divisions amongst the humans where some of them (i.e. those who have never fought alongside them) had fear and mistrust of their Autobot allies.
And to be fair, it was a fair question from the President. If he believes that Earth is harbouring extra terrestrial refugees who may be attracting more dangerous extra terrestrials to Earth, then it's not unreasonable to consider telling them to leave and thus removing the danger from Earth. Since the Autobots aren't human I'm assuming that laws regarding granting them asylum would be completely different from those for humans.
I see him more as being like Dai Atlas from G1 - he's still basically a morally uprighteous individual, but acknowledges that he is in the middle of a war and presents a callous persona on the battlefield, not necessarily out of malice, but out of necessity. G1 Optimus Prime's greatest weakness was always his compassion. So I can see how movie Prime's lack of compassion in battle can make him seem less like Optimus Prime - and indeed this was the main reason why so many fans disliked Dai Atlas - but I don't think it makes him morally conflicted.
A lot of compassionate individuals are forced to commit horrific acts in war. It's a sad reality. I remember one ANZAC saying that he was never proud of his service in WWII - because every enemy soldier he killed meant that he was depriving someone's family of a son, brother or father... each time he killed an enemy he knew he was making more orphans. But he did it because that was his job, but he hated it. At the end of the first movie Prime said to Megatron, "You left me no choice, brother." which indicates that he has a similar mentality; the statement indicates that movie Optimus Prime is still inherently altruistic and still believes that the ends can never justify the means and that he regrets having to do what he must. I don't think it's necessary for RotF to revisit this exposition since it was already established in the first movie.
JMHO.
Also urban combat is more tight-packed and (in a way) chaotic than open-field combat. In RotF we had fights in open jungle and desert. Either way, I'm still a fan of the fast and furious choreography in the TF movies.
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