All Hail Megatron Coda #13 to #16

[GoktimusPrime]

So basically his "body" is really a Mega Pretender shell with what little they could salvage from Kup housed inside. Man... Kup would freak if say a hole was ever blasted through his chest and he peeked inside to see remnants of his original cerebral cortex strapped inside! They should make a toy of this for Universe but a revamped Brainmaster gimmick (after all we had Universe Cyclonus as a Targetmaster); the small "brain" unit could represent the original Kup with the main body being the "Pretender shell."

He's kind of like Thunderwing if you only read the US issues of the Marvel comics: he has a super-powerful, transforming Pretender body even though it's not clear that there's any trace of a smaller robot inside.

The US comics did reveal Thunderwing's nature as a Pretender with an inner robot during the Matrix Quest. Although we never saw Thunderwing's robot form, he did mention that he was a Pretender and thus had first hand knowledge of the relationship between a Pretender robot and his shell (which he exploited to incapacitate Bumblebee).

[kup]

The UK comics also briefly showed the inner bot:

[Sky Shadow]

The US comics did reveal Thunderwing's nature as a Pretender with an inner robot during the Matrix Quest. Although we never saw Thunderwing's robot form, he did mention that he was a Pretender and thus had first hand knowledge of the relationship between a Pretender robot and his shell (which he exploited to incapacitate Bumblebee).

The UK comics also briefly showed the inner bot:

Yes, I know both those facts thanks guys, that's why I said Kup's "kind of like Thunderwing if you only read the US issues of the Marvel comics". My point was, that if US readers could accept that Thunderwing was a transforming Pretender who never showed an/his inner bot, there's no reason why current IDW readers shouldn't be able to accept that Kup can exist along similar lines.

[kup]

I understand what you mean but still, Thuderwing was a Pretender with an innerbot in both UK and US even if we never saw it in the former but it was clearly established in dialogue that it exists. Kup on the other hand does not have an inner bot and what makes him a Pretender is not a never to be seen inner bot but a Pretender tech based neural interface that connects his damage 'old' brain to the 'new' one of his body making it 'whole' again.

Yeah with Kup just as Marvel US Thunderwing, we will not get to see an inner bot but the difference here is that Thunderwing was established to have an inner bot and Kup has been established that he doesn't - The 'shell' is his only body so readers should be fine accepting it as he is a regular transformer like any other only that his brain uses pretender tech.

I also have to remember that although the concept is pretty cool, we would likely not hear of it again as its only purpose was to fix McCarthy's continuity mess up. We will see the Prowl side of this subplot but I doubt that we will ever hear of the Pretender concept again as it has already served its purpose to explain Kup's miraculous recovery

[GoktimusPrime]

I think that Kup as a Mega-Pretender could've been better explained in the comic cos I was kinda confused by it. I don't have a problem with the concept of Kup being a Mega Pretender without a shown inner robot... but I think I would've benefitted if that were more explicitly explained.

Thunderwing didn't need as much exposition because the character was based on a pre-existing Mega Pretender toy meaning that the target audience (i.e.: people with a keen interest in Transformers) would be aware that Thunderwing is a Mega Pretender. After all, the G1 comics did fundamentally exist to promote the toys for Hasbro.

I hope that this is further clarified later down the track.

[FFN]

Interesting - the text on one of All Hail Megatron issue 15's Perceptor covers was copy-pasted from the TF Wiki's G1 Perceptor article.

[Tommy K]

picked up the vol 2 of all hail today
WOW!

anyhoo i understand that this is only for 13-16 but i feel more people will read my things here so whatever.

ok so i overall enjoyed it, it almost feels like a summer blockbuster, but this is comming from a 18/early adult/testosterone(dontknowhow to spell itlmao)/zomg i love explosions man.

reading through it i went through all kinds of emotions lol. like when mirages gets beaten up by ironhide(heart destroying) to the point where sunstreaker tells his tale(shock but it was leading to it kind of obviousish) then to the frightful zombiesk swarm attack(not scary just omg run like hell frightful) and all the other emotions as optimus, omega blah blah blah, i dont need to go into details im not like the reviewers on youtube lol.

anyway after reading the whole story i believe the story all up was slow at the start but from vol2 onwards it skyrockets in awesomeness, but yeah, i dont want to say anything unjust or whatever, but this is what i believe transformers 2 should have been like, or tf3 will be like.

but yeah, i hope i did spoil too much lmao