The Football (all sorts) Thread

[i_amtrunks]

Can't wait for the Storm to wipe the floor with Parramatta. It'll shut all the bandwagoners traps for them.

And it will be nice to know the NRL failed to get Parra to win a premiership, considering all the help they have given them with the refereeing and judicial decisions.

[Bartrim]

Can't wait for the Storm to wipe the floor with Parramatta. It'll shut all the bandwagoners traps for them.

And it will be nice to know the NRL failed to get Parra to win a premiership, considering all the help they have given them with the refereeing and judicial decisions.

Gotta agree with you there Trunks. I almost wannasee parra win just so Fatbot will be happy but I think they had a bit of luck. I thought that touch judge had money on Parra goingoff some of his decisions. Oh and what's the difference between Jarryd Hayne's knee drop and Bryce Gibbs' knee drop. Why was Hayne only given a grade1 and Gibbs a grade 2 !? (thats a rhetorrical question. Being an NRL fan I know they are pushing their new golden boy)

[i_amtrunks]

Gotta agree with you there Trunks. I almost wannasee parra win just so Fatbot will be happy but I think they had a bit of luck. I thought that touch judge had money on Parra goingoff some of his decisions. Oh and what's the difference between Jarryd Hayne's knee drop and Bryce Gibbs' knee drop. Why was Hayne only given a grade1 and Gibbs a grade 2 !? (thats a rhetorrical question. Being an NRL fan I know they are pushing their new golden boy)

I missed the game (couldn't care less about dogs/eels) but when I saw the footage of Hayne kneeing an opposition player in the neck when he should have just jumped over him my first thought was "4 weeks". Then my second thought was, "no, the NRL is trying to get Parra a premiership, he'll get off."

If it had have been Slater doing the exact same thing (or any melbourne player) he would have been given 3-4 weeks easy.

Chicken wing was iffy, I don't think the intent was there, but it was still a chicken wing tackle. Good decision to put him on report then dropping the charge after the game.

[Fungal Infection]

I missed the game (couldn't care less about dogs/eels) but when I saw the footage of Hayne kneeing an opposition player in the neck when he should have just jumped over him my first thought was "4 weeks". Then my second thought was, "no, the NRL is trying to get Parra a premiership, he'll get off."

If it had have been Slater doing the exact same thing (or any melbourne player) he would have been given 3-4 weeks easy.

Chicken wing was iffy, I don't think the intent was there, but it was still a chicken wing tackle. Good decision to put him on report then dropping the charge after the game.

What a load of BS that ruling was. Cam Smith was suspended last year for the final and both Hayne and Keating get off with a slap on the wrist. Anyway, this is the final I wanted anyway, since Slater will show Hayne why he's the incumbent Test fullback. People seem to forget that Slater has been consistent all year but Hayne suddenly decides in last 10 weeks he wants to play and now he's the golden child.

[mknell]

What a load of BS that ruling was. Cam Smith was suspended last year for the final and both Hayne and Keating get off with a slap on the wrist. Anyway, this is the final I wanted anyway, since Slater will show Hayne why he's the incumbent Test fullback. People seem to forget that Slater has been consistent all year but Hayne suddenly decides in last 10 weeks he wants to play and now he's the golden child.

Actually Hayne has been good all year when at fullback not at 5/8 where we started him this season

Gotta agree with you there Trunks. I almost wannasee parra win just so Fatbot will be happy but I think they had a bit of luck. I thought that touch judge had money on Parra goingoff some of his decisions. Oh and what's the difference between Jarryd Hayne's knee drop and Bryce Gibbs' knee drop. Why was Hayne only given a grade1 and Gibbs a grade 2 !? (thats a rhetorrical question. Being an NRL fan I know they are pushing their new golden boy)

I think with the grading he got a Grade 1 due to the fact that it was from a kick and he was going for the loose ball initally but with Gibbs one Burt already had the ball in his possession before even going for the try. I know the debate would rage on but I think they got it right and it will make for a better and more entertaining game, like come off it who wouldn't want Hayne VS Slater.

[i_amtrunks]

Actually Hayne has been good all year when at fullback not at 5/8 where we started him this season

That is what makes Hayne an okay footballer, not a great one. He can only play fullback/wing. Put him anywhere else and he is a liability.

I think with the grading he got a Grade 1 due to the fact that it was from a kick and he was going for the loose ball initally but with Gibbs one Burt already had the ball in his possession before even going for the try. I know the debate would rage on but I think they got it right and it will make for a better and more entertaining game, like come off it who wouldn't want Hayne VS Slater.

The fact that Burt took a dive didnt hurt either. Kneeing someone intentionally (he went to his knees when there was no need) in the neck is much worse than copping it to the backside.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I would have preferred to see Lachlan Coote, Gidley or Bowen vs. Slater in the grand final. They are all better fullbacks than Hayne. (so are Stewart and Hunt, but I dont like either player)

[mknell]

That is what makes Hayne an okay footballer, not a great one. He can only play fullback/wing. Put him anywhere else and he is a liability.



The fact that Burt took a dive didnt hurt either. Kneeing someone intentionally (he went to his knees when there was no need) in the neck is much worse than copping it to the backside.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I would have preferred to see Lachlan Coote, Gidley or Bowen vs. Slater in the grand final. They are all better fullbacks than Hayne. (so are Stewart and Hunt, but I dont like either player)

Hayne's problem at 5/8 is he tried to do more than he should, where at fullback he can rove a bit more, it's the same with Slater really put him at 5/8 and it just wouldn't work. Where a player like Gidley it does work as he is a great utility player in that way. Just remember Hayne is only 21, in previous years he has done quite well for himself, in 06 he was great in his first year, was very good in 07, last year he was way too quiet coz he was stupid and got shot at and I think that really shook him up.

You must really really hate Hayne don't you?

[fatbot]

That is what makes Hayne an okay footballer, not a great one. He can only play fullback/wing. Put him anywhere else and he is a liability.

Your 100% right, Hayne can only play the two positions, but then they aren't many footballers today who can play more then that. Slater can't, Cam Smith can't, yet people recognise these two as being among the best footballers ever produced. The only player, past or present that i can think of that can play mutiple roles would be Lockyer. Even if we go back a few years men like Webke, Andrew Johns, Langmack, Fittler, Langer, Lewis and many many others who are considered to be among the greats only ever played ONE position successfully, yet you think a players no good unless he can play 3 or more positions?

Part of a successful football side, not matter what the shape of the ball, is picking the right player in the right position, it doesn't matter if that player can only play in the one position. it would be nice if players could be moved and swapped around willy nilly, but in reality, it's better to have players play in a position that they can excel at, no matter what that position is, Hayne and every other player in the Eels squad proves that point.

Further poof for this point comes from the Bulldogs and Eels squads from the '80's, every single player played in the one position, and between the two squads dominated rugby league for eight years.