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    Quote Originally Posted by heroic_decepticon View Post
    On that note, I'm contemplating buying a few items from this same seller, Sonofayoda, and he told me that shipping is US$50 (express) for 1 figure and $5 per extra figure.
    That is over the top. I have never paid that much for shipping from the US. Maybe it's EMS he is referring to and not express. Ask him (if you are really keen on what he is selling) if there are cheaper alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5FDP View Post
    That is over the top. I have never paid that much for shipping from the US. Maybe it's EMS he is referring to and not express. Ask him (if you are really keen on what he is selling) if there are cheaper alternatives.
    he said something like if I paid by cash or money order, he could ship it cheaper, but if I pay by Paypal, then its the price he quoted above. He will not use any alternative or more economic means of shipping.

    I think I might just pass and wait. These days, I much prefer to get stuff from the UK. The sellers are generally much nice and more interested and they do have good stuff.

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    I had the following question asked to me in PM, but I thought I'd share it here since it doesn't really contain anything private/personal - and maybe other people can help shed some light on it. I've witheld the identity of the person who PMed the questions to me, and I'll leave it up to him/her to reveal themselves publicly or not.

    I am just wondering something about the Robot Heaven scene in TF:ROTF ...

    Is it possible it wasn't a Robot Heaven and instead ...
    the meeting of the "Primes" and "Sam" took place inside the Matrix of Leadership like ("if i remembered correctly from the G1 Cartoon" ) when "Optimus Prime" talks to "Alpha Trion"????
    Sam communicates with the Primes in a vision. Whether this vision is occurring in his mind, or in some extra-dimensional plane of existence isn't really specified in the film and left open to interpretation from the audience.

    The Transformers' equivalent of "Heaven" (although it's more like the Cosmic Mother Node from Dharmic religions) would be the AllSpark; which is linked with the Matrix (the terms have sometimes been interchangeably used).

    Is this the official explanation of what it was??
    AFAIK the "official" explanation is just what we see in the movie. And what we see is Sam communicating to the Primes in some kind of vision. At the end of this vision the Matrix of Leadership rematerialised in Sam's hand. Those are the facts.

    Exactly what the vision was and "where" it occurred is open to interpretive conjecture. My estimation would be that either the Primes communicated with Sam's mind, as you said before it's similar to how Optimus Prime had visions from Alpha Trion's Spark in the G1 cartoon. Another theory could be that Sam's spirit had travelled to the AllSpark realm (the extra-dimensional plane of existence from where all Transformer Sparks originate from and return; essentially a Transformers afterlife or "heaven" if you want to call it that)[1] and communicated with the Sparks of the Primes there.

    As for how Sam was able to interface with the AllSpark and establish contact with the ancient Primes, I'm not aware of any explicit official explanation, but my guess is that Sam was essentially the holder of the Matrix (albeit in particle form in a sock - but it was on his person!), and as such the ancient Primes reached out to him and made contact with him -- arguably even using the power of the Matrix to revive him (the army medics didn't seem to be having much success despite their efforts).

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    [1] Beast Machines definitively established the nature of the Transformers' afterlife (re: AllSpark realm).

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    Wasn't the knowledge of the Allspark "if not part of it" Transferred to Sams brain which could of given "Sam" or the "Primes" the ability to comunicate with each other...
    etc... the bit that was known to be transferred from the "AllSpark" to Sam's brain had something to do with the Primes, hiding the "Matrix" which could of of formed some kind of link for them to communicate with each other.
    It's possible that:
    1. Sam touched the AllSpark fragment, thus becoming its vessel.
    2. Perhaps as the vessel (and according to one of the Primes, it was pre-ordained destiny, which makes him the Chosen One), he then interfaced with the Matrix upon clinical death (in a sense temporarily becoming one with the Matrix).

    Your theory is possible - but I don't know if there's been any official canon (or even statement from Paramount or Hasbro, which I'd accept as official) that clarifies this. So until an official explanation is provided, fans can have fun inventing theories.

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    Thanks GoktimusPrime's

    Just trying figure out Where and Why this scene is taking place. As this is the only thing that is bugging me "if not most" about ROTF..

    I wish they had the "Primes" at least say to Sam that "What you are seeing, is what remains of us" or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G1Optimal View Post

    I wish they had the "Primes" at least say to Sam that "What you are seeing, is what remains of us" or something like that.
    just be glad they didn't teabag Sam, although that would make the film better IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutsman Heavy View Post
    just be glad they didn't teabag Sam, although that would make the film better IMO
    I didn't think of that....lol

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