The Greatest Non-G1 Legacy Transformers Ever.

[GoktimusPrime]

Goki, that's a thorough post, but maybe go back to reread the original question, because 90% of your suggestions are G1 inspired.

I'll concede that Sunstorm, Unicron and Primus are G1 inspired, but...

+ Mach Alert/Prowl: is an original character (much like Speedbreaker/Side Burn). Although Hasbro tacked the Prowl name onto him, unlike BW Megatron and Optimus Primal, it was never Takara's original intention for Mach Alert to be Prowl (nor was Fire Convoy meant to be Optimus Prime, nor Gigatron Megatron etc.).
+ I did offer Tidalwave as Armada's greatest non-G1 legacy. Damn he's cool.
+ I think my SuperLink/Energon examples still hold. There's no Kicker or Snowcat in G1.

I'm trying to think of examples from each post G1 series... gotta think of some more.

[Sky Shadow]

I'll concede that Sunstorm, Unicron and Primus are G1 inspired, but...

+ Mach Alert/Prowl: is an original character (much like Speedbreaker/Side Burn). Although Hasbro tacked the Prowl name onto him, unlike BW Megatron and Optimus Primal, it was never Takara's original intention for Mach Alert to be Prowl (nor was Fire Convoy meant to be Optimus Prime, nor Gigatron Megatron etc.).
+ I did offer Tidalwave as Armada's greatest non-G1 legacy. Damn he's cool.
+ I think my SuperLink/Energon examples still hold. There's no Kicker or Snowcat in G1.

I'm trying to think of examples from each post G1 series... gotta think of some more.

Okay, I can accept Tidal Wave, Mach Alert and Snow Cat (even though he's a bit... how you say... G1 Joe?)

I'm not convinced that Kicker's a Transformer, though.

[GoktimusPrime]

He's an Almost-Transformer! Just check out his awesome Rock Lord mode!

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Tidal Wave was awesome.

And I forgot Airazor too, who's notable if nothing else for being first non-recolour female Transformer toy. I think.

IIRC her Transmetal form was the first US mold intended to be female.

[SkyWarp91]

Ejector, that scorhin', blazin' crazin' mother of a toasterformer!

[kup]

Ejector, that scorhin', blazin' crazin' mother of a toasterformer!

How about characters that have G1 names but are completely unique?

Like BW Silverbolt, BW Rampage, etc. I can't say that those characters are tributes to their G1 namesakes since aside from the name there is no other identifiable similarity. These characters also have lasting appeal in the fandom.

[Sky Shadow]

How about characters that have G1 names but are completely unique?

Like BW Silverbolt, BW Rampage, etc. I can't say that those characters are tributes to their G1 namesakes since aside from the name there is no other identifiable similarity. These characters also have lasting appeal in the fandom.

I completely get your point, and Beast Wars Fuzor Silverbolt, Rampage, Inferno, etc. are great and unique characters, but just having a Geewun name is something that ties them back to the eighties. The G1 name thing is one of the few black and white rules that can help differentiate whether a character is a legacy or not - otherwise, it's pretty much a shades-of-grey free for all where people will argue that everyone from Armada Jetfire to Super Fire Convoy are not G1 legacy characters.

[Tetsuwan Convoy]

Gutsman: since RID Scourge is a recolour of a G2 mould of a G1 character with a G1 name, I don't think I can add him either, as cool as he is.

I dont see the logic here.

Are we talking about characters or moulds? On one hand we accept Dinobot (g1 name) and yet reject another of a G1 name, yet different character and body..

If we are talking character and effect, then the fact that RID Scourge is a re-colour shouldn't matter at all should it?

[Sky Shadow]

I dont see the logic here.

Are we talking about characters or moulds? On one hand we accept Dinobot (g1 name) and yet reject another of a G1 name, yet different character and body..

If we are talking character and effect, then the fact that RID Scourge is a re-colour shouldn't matter at all should it?

RiD Scourge is a black, grey and blue evil recolour of an Optimus Prime toy. His name is G1 and he's a repaint of the most identifiable character from G1. To not be a G1 legacy, he'd need to not have conspicuous ties to G1 characters.

[GoktimusPrime]

Ejector, that scorhin', blazin' crazin' mother of a toasterformer!

There was already a toaster Transformer in G1 -- he even made a brief appearance in the Time Wars!