KOToys- FORT,BRAVE,GRAND Max KOS

[fatbot]

This one really has me conflicted. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first G1 knockoff of a mold that TakaraTomy actually still HAS, and used recently for the Japanese RID Fortress Maximus, and is likely to use again?

Its one thing to buy a toy that is likely NEVER to be reissued, its another to buy one that might cost TT legitimate sales

It's highly unlikely that TT will ever re issue him, due to the fact that the larger transformers are shelf warmers, imagine a toy the size of Fort Max.

What I really love about this though, is the people who already have a Fort Max are vehemently against this K/O, where as the people who don't have it are welcoming of the news, elitism anyone?

[Verno]

I'm all for elitism and I don't own one. I'd be the same if someone came out with a KO X-9 Ravage, I'd be against it.

And something tells me a TT Reissue of Fort, Brave or Grand would be far from shelfwarmers, you'd have a global market begging to get their hands on them, clearly shown by this discussion.

[The_Damned]

It's highly unlikely that TT will ever re issue him, due to the fact that the larger transformers are shelf warmers, imagine a toy the size of Fort Max.

What I really love about this though, is the people who already have a Fort Max are vehemently against this K/O, where as the people who don't have it are welcoming of the news, elitism anyone?

um didnt you see my post? so before you go spouting off check your facts

[fatbot]

um didnt you see my post? so before you go spouting off check your facts

calm down champ, I wasn't talking about you.

[The_Damned]

all good buddy

[Verno]

At the end of the day, what these people are doing is stealing. They are taking the property of others, producing a poorer quality version and marketing it.

If you want a Fort Max, utilise the strong desire for one in getting a global petition going imploring Takara to release one. Do it smartly, show projected sales figures from gauging members not only on this board but ones overseas. Show that it is profitable for them to pursue this idea.

Thats what I think anyway.

[5FDP]

I was wondering how long it would take before this thread turned into your normal 'KO makers are evil' discussion

Zhong Jin and Kidi Toys have been making them for so long now and Hasbro / TakTom know where their factories are. If they cared, they would've shut them down by now. The truth is, they don't and they won't.

I'm yet to hear of anyone being hauled off to jail for purchasing KO Transformers as well.

[Burn]

I don't own Fortress Maximus, I do however own a Brave Maximus.

I would like to own Fortress Maximus however, but I will not pay ANY amount of money for a KO.

Sorry, but it's just my personal opinion, but I want the real deals in my collection, and i'm happy to bide my time, save up, and find the genuine article.

[bruticus]

Zhong Jin and Kidi Toys have been making them for so long now and Hasbro / TakTom know where their factories are. If they cared, they would've shut them down by now. The truth is, they don't and they won't.

hmm...i was just imagining how it would be really funny(?) if hastaktom were the ones who actually supplied the old/used moulds and QC/QA rejects to KO makers or even own the KO factories themselves! lol.
that way, they would then have their grubby fingers dipped in the pockets of both the legit and the non legit TF buyers...
ka-ching!!! full market domination!

i currently own the legit versions, but im still glad that an affordable version will be available for everyone else.
its an awesome figure and i reckon every G1 fan should own him (KO or not)!

I'm also looking forward to the upcoming custom projects that will be built using these KO's . im sure F_R and his buddies will have a good crack at it now thats its affordable.

[GoktimusPrime]

It's highly unlikely that TT will ever re issue him, due to the fact that the larger transformers are shelf warmers, imagine a toy the size of Fort Max.

Yeah... apparently toys like reissue Omega Supreme and Metroplex shelf-warmed... and Fortress Maximus DWARFS those toys, so I don't blame TOMY for not wanting to reissue Fort Max.

What I really love about this though, is the people who already have a Fort Max are vehemently against this K/O, where as the people who don't have it are welcoming of the news, elitism anyone?

I'm against unlicensed toys period - doesn't matter if I own it or not. I don't have Dreadwind. I've seen KO Dreadwinds on sale in Asian stores before, which I just passed on since I knew they were fakes. I still don't have a G1 Dreadwind (yet). When I do get one, I want it to be real.

I was wondering how long it would take before this thread turned into your normal 'KO makers are evil' discussion

Zhong Jin and Kidi Toys have been making them for so long now and Hasbro / TakTom know where their factories are. If they cared, they would've shut them down by now. The truth is, they don't and they won't.

I'm yet to hear of anyone being hauled off to jail for purchasing KO Transformers as well.

Just because nobody's doing anything about it doesn't necessarily make it right. That's kinda like saying if I steal something but the storekeeper can't be bothered to stop me, then it's okay.

Anyway, "good" and "evil" are matters of perspective. I never said that what they were doing was good or bad, just not something I would personally subscribe to or support. But that's just me... if other people wanna go buy KOs then that's their prerogative.

I think the most important thing is that people are AWARE of which toys have been counterfeited and sellers should be up front and honest if the toy they're selling is fake, thus allowing consumers to make an informed choice. If you know a toy is fake but you still want to buy it because you believe it's cheaper and more convenient than buying an original - okay, that's your call. What annoys me more is when collectors are deceived into thinking a counterfeit is real... they think it's legit, pay for it, only later to find out it's fake.