Quote Originally Posted by christalcase View Post

My biggest gripe by far is Starscream's death, come on, death by two humans?!?! That feels so demeaning of the character who's been in an important role in the first two movies. Even Shockwave, who was an epic disappointment (that guy basically didn't do anything), got the honour of being killed by Optimus Prime.

Then there's Megatron, who doesn't get much screen time at all, he didn't do much either, with the main villain being Sentinel. That was disappointing too, Megatron joins the fight for a few mins right at the end and gets easily killed by Optimus Prime immediately. I found myself wondering, why did they bother...

Also didn't like the alien spaceships, it doesn't feel very Transformers to me, it feels like another generic alien invasion technique (for lack of a better term). Shockwave's worm thing (Driller) was lame, the building being destroyed in half was lame, the Stealth Force modes were lame (to me anyway, the transition to the big screen wasn't as great as I expected) and Sam should have died a dozen times already with all the situations he's been in (especially when the Orbital Spaceship thing crashed with him on top).
As I said before I had no issue with Starscreams end, the way he's portrayed in the previous movies is just as some misrable yesman who is kicked around by Megatron, powerfully he may be in the air, but he's still and idiot.

Megatron on the other hand did deserve more, specially when he had such a cool new look and scared Elephants. I think it was Bay just trying to tie it all up as a "screw you" to whichever poor director picks up the mantle next.

Quote Originally Posted by christalcase View Post
.... and Sam should have died a dozen times already with all the situations he's been in (especially when the Orbital Spaceship thing crashed with him on top).
+ 1, Totally agree with you about the crash, my suspension of disbelief got me past the other stunts, but not that one, geez he could have at least jumped clear, crashing aircraft doesn't kill anyone in Hollywood no more.

Quote Originally Posted by SkyWarp91 View Post
After some rethinking this is a good conclusion to the Bay Transformers era. And good is a generous enough term for me but like Christalcase I had very high expectations of this movie as Bay and co had said that the issues of ROTF would be fixed in DOTM - well to a certain level they were right as the story was more coherent but at the same time the movie suffered from faults that you'd think Michael would have learned from in the past.
Bay doesn't learn ever, he just makes occasional minor concessions he's like George Lucas in that way.